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Why Spy Agencies Say the Future Is Bleak

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Re: Why Spy Agencies Say the Future Is Bleak

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CO2 levels at 418 ppm right now. It's not just rising but accelerating up. When are we going to start fixing this exactly? https://www.co2.earth/daily-co2

If you could plant a forest about the size of Australia, or some crop that you could cut down regularly, dry out, and compress and then bury it. All using clean energy of course. That may help.

C02 in the atmosphere is grim problem. Disperse source pollutants suck.

Re: Why Spy Agencies Say the Future Is Bleak

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It would be rather surprising were a spy agency to say "the world is fine and living in harmony, guess you don't need us spies anymore ..."

There's a difference between a report that is overly alarmist and near fabricating things and a report that points out things are worse now than they were in previous years, which seems to be the case here. While intelligence agencies obviously have their own agendas they still play an important role in modern governments and it would be a fools errant to ignore what they say completely.

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A lot of what they are saying is that governments are losing legitimacy and ability to deliver what people want, and this will shift governance and power to other institutions that will take over much of how humanity interacts.

I guess that is bleak for the spy agencies but not for the world overall. People will be happier with a reversal of the tendency of governments to get larger and a return to more fragmented communities that humans have evolved to be happy in.

I’m surprised they have the balls to say this though

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A lot of what they are saying is that governments are losing legitimacy and ability to deliver what people want, and this will shift governance and power to other institutions that will take over much of how humanity interacts. I guess that is bleak for the spy agencies but not for the world overall. People will be happier with a reversal of the tendency of governments to get larger and a return to more fragmented co…

What you are describing is much closer to Mad Max than a Utopia. The world ended up as countries and governments for a reason.

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CO2 levels at 418 ppm right now. It's not just rising but accelerating up. When are we going to start fixing this exactly? https://www.co2.earth/daily-co2

15 years ago, I was extremely concerned about CO2. Now? CO2 is the single major environmental issue that I think is now certain to work out fine.

Why? Because PV and wind are now the cheapest forms of energy, because even when you add the cost of batteries those are still cheaper than coal and oil, and because the factories to make them are being made as quickly as possible because the eco-friendly solution is so much cheaper than fossil fuels.

The current trend line for PV is an exponential that started in 1992, going up by a factor of ~9000 in 29 years. Keep it up just until the end of this decade and all power — electric, heating, transport; domestic, industrial — is PV by around 2030, and the only reason to expect reality to fall short is that transitioning the final few bits is going to be harder than the first few bits.

I’m still worried about biodiversity losses, phosphorus, antibiotic resistance, etc., but not about CO2.

Re: Why Spy Agencies Say the Future Is Bleak

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post #16

A lot of what they are saying is that governments are losing legitimacy and ability to deliver what people want, and this will shift governance and power to other institutions that will take over much of how humanity interacts. I guess that is bleak for the spy agencies but not for the world overall. People will be happier with a reversal of the tendency of governments to get larger and a return to more fragmented co…

What you are describing is much closer to Mad Max than a Utopia. The world ended up as countries and governments for a reason.

It did, but perhaps the grounds that made countries and governments make sense no longer apply? After all nation states as we knew them today are a rather new innovation.
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