Police say they found mafia fugitive on YouTube, posting cooking tutorials

Post by jrace » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 2:55 PM UTC

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I honestly don't get what you mean. He's free to show his humanity by collaborating with authorities and getting more people arrested, or by doing his sentence and having a cooking show afterwards. Anything else is "doing something he likes while avoiding the consequences for all the illegal actions he did in the past", and we're not talking about somebody in poverty stealing food at the supermarket, here. (This is a…

There's an irony in that we want criminals to reform and rejoin society, yet we arrest them for doing so on their own initiative. He could have continued to commit crime, leaving a trail of bodies, and he probably wouldn't have been caught yet. He chose to live a quiet life somewhere out of the way and ended up getting caught for trying to be a normal person. If he were going to continue living a quiet life there til…

Post by szhu » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 4:13 PM UTC

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There's an irony in that we want criminals to reform and rejoin society, yet we arrest them for doing so on their own initiative. He could have continued to commit crime, leaving a trail of bodies, and he probably wouldn't have been caught yet. He chose to live a quiet life somewhere out of the way and ended up getting caught for trying to be a normal person. If he were going to continue living a quiet life there til…

Are you saying that one is free to commit any crime as long as one day they stop and no longer commit crimes? And no punishment or retribution is required?

Post by szhu » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

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Punishment is required. However, because we want people to come clean of their own agency (both to make crime-solving take up less public resources, and to make it such that criminals don't have to wait to get caught before becoming productive and non-harmful members of society), we should adjust incentives such that the punishment for coming clean of one's own accord is a little less, and the punishment for getting…

I agree, keep in mind this criminal did not come clean on his own accord. There is no indication he would have ever come clean. All we know is that he did non-criminal activities on youtube. For all we know he could have been operating a human-smuggling operation from his current local. Either way he knowingly and purposefully avoided prosecution.