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Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

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Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#11
https://twitter.com/thexpaw/status/1376796965942464515

> We've got in touch with someone at SEGA of America and it is being looked into.

> Thanks for your support everyonee, it is truly amazing to see that my hobby (!) project is useful to so many people

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#12
post #2

Today I learned that 2021 Sega is still in business. Sad to see them devalue themselves and simply become another patent troll.

Sega is probably the most friendly videogame company regarding copyright, specially to fan games.

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#13
post #8
post #6

Aren't they reacting wrong to the DMCA complaint? Shouldn't Cloudflare have some form where SteamDB could state "we don't infringe on your copyright" and then it's up to SEGA to take this to court?

Hire some lawyers, have them send a letter back that says "no" surrounded by a lot of words and wait. It'll either resolve itself or they'll win in court, either way is okay.

SteamDB is a hobby project by two guys - I doubt they want the cost of a lawyer or headache of a legal defense. They may also get suspended by CloudFlare in the meantime.

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#14
post #5

A false DMCA takedown is equivalent to perjury. If SteamDB were to counter-sue Sega, Sega could be punished for perjury, forced to pay SteamDB's lawyers fees, and potentially lose their copyright on the content they claimed was violated.

Any examples of this happening?

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#15
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with patents. They're not trolling, which is generally registering something and sitting on it waiting to sue. Sega is a practicing entity with a copyright on a game that's actively being sold. Someone's made a mistake in this DMCA complaint and Sega's being difficult to reach to resolve it. It's nothing like patent trolling.

> it’s nothing like patent trolling Sega has army of lawyers and probably massive budget for court fees vs a small 2 people run shop who are actually not infringing anything and don’t have any of those resources. You get where this is going?

I thought your stereotypical patent troll wasn't a firm with access to top notch legal resources, just some people slinging enough shit that eventually it stuck? This would be pretty firmly different, right?

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#16
post #5

A false DMCA takedown is equivalent to perjury. If SteamDB were to counter-sue Sega, Sega could be punished for perjury, forced to pay SteamDB's lawyers fees, and potentially lose their copyright on the content they claimed was violated.

Really? If the risks for making a false DMCA takedown request were that high, I would expect to see less false takedown notices, and less aggressive bots. Or maybe the aggressors are just assuming that the victims don't have the resources to fight a megacorp in court? If it's the latter it seems like an organization like EFF should step in to fund such a fight.

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#17
post #12
post #2

Today I learned that 2021 Sega is still in business. Sad to see them devalue themselves and simply become another patent troll.

Sega is probably the most friendly videogame company regarding copyright, specially to fan games.

Except for "Streets of Rage remake"

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#18
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with patents. They're not trolling, which is generally registering something and sitting on it waiting to sue. Sega is a practicing entity with a copyright on a game that's actively being sold. Someone's made a mistake in this DMCA complaint and Sega's being difficult to reach to resolve it. It's nothing like patent trolling.

> it’s nothing like patent trolling Sega has army of lawyers and probably massive budget for court fees vs a small 2 people run shop who are actually not infringing anything and don’t have any of those resources. You get where this is going?

Let's not redefine "patent trolling" as bad thing big bad company does. This was clearly a mistake borne from the outsourcing of brand protection onto a firm that clearly is not the greatest at their job.

Thankfully, somebody in SEGA has responded and it should be soon resolved.

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#19
post #5

A false DMCA takedown is equivalent to perjury. If SteamDB were to counter-sue Sega, Sega could be punished for perjury, forced to pay SteamDB's lawyers fees, and potentially lose their copyright on the content they claimed was violated.

There has never been any blowback from false DMCA claims.

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#20
post #5

A false DMCA takedown is equivalent to perjury. If SteamDB were to counter-sue Sega, Sega could be punished for perjury, forced to pay SteamDB's lawyers fees, and potentially lose their copyright on the content they claimed was violated.

Any examples of this happening?

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