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Elite philanthropy locks in and perpetuate inequalities

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Re: Elite philanthropy locks in and perpetuate inequalities

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I'm inclined to believe the premise. Tax is just better at equalising. But, I do respect the Gates for their philanthropy towards health, especially, women's reproductive health during a time US political toxicity removed a huge amount of aid due to the anti abortionists power in domestic politics.

Bill Gates was a destructive businessman. His philanthropy is tied up in his "power" world view. The way the press fawns over his every word is nauseating and a part of this power dynamic. We worship the rich.

yes, he was. But, now, he isn't. He isn't at the helm of MS any more.

I think having got to a certain place with a big caveat, what he and Melinda Gates are choosing to do with the pile of money, is better than what other people (Bezos, Musk) are doing with the money. Even Bezos' ex-wife is doing better things with her share of the money.

The caveat is that I am told, the Gates often require you to use Microsoft IT to do whatever thing you're doing.

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I'm inclined to believe the premise. Tax is just better at equalising. But, I do respect the Gates for their philanthropy towards health, especially, women's reproductive health during a time US political toxicity removed a huge amount of aid due to the anti abortionists power in domestic politics.

Are you saying that individuals wielding massive amounts of power in shaping social policy isn't such a terrible thing as long as those people have the "right" political view?

No. I'm saying that out of all the philanthropising which happens, I respect the Gates. It is still a terrible thing they got so wealthy. Thats why I prefer the tax solution.

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The alternative is to keep funding more and more bureaucrats. Until you get to this [0] [0] https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/S-F-pays-61-000-a-...

That’s also a symptom of a different problem. The focus on real estate as an investment has caused a lack of incentive to build affordable housing.

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> Andrew Carnegie, the pioneer of entrepreneurial philanthropy, who argued in the late 19th century that ‘the problem of our age is the proper administration of wealth, so that the ties of brotherhood may still bind together the rich and poor in harmonious relationship’ Has this ever happened? I don’t see these circles mixing much unless it is a wealthy donor donating to a charity, or a wealthy person marrying someon…

Carnegie funded most of the libraries in the US and Canada.

If you wonder why other countries rarely have libraries but nearly every city in NA has at least one, now you know.

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This insufferable screed fails to point out the one and only reason why a super-wealthy person would ‘donate’ their fortune.

Not that the alternatives are better for society. To some extent, celebration of these foundations is an admission by lawmakers that their spending choices are so corrupt and incompetent to be actually worse for society than if the money had just disappeared from the system.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that individuals wielding massive amounts of power in shaping social policy isn't such a terrible thing as long as those people have the "right" political view?

No. I'm saying that out of all the philanthropising which happens, I respect the Gates. It is still a terrible thing they got so wealthy. Thats why I prefer the tax solution.

Okay, so entrepreneurs should not be allowed to become wealthy. How do you plan to enforce that? What about politicians, should they be wealthy? How about their friends and donors and special interests that get giant contracts and banking monopolies? Should the people that control the money supply be ‘allowed’ to get rich off of it?

Is there a single example in all of history where attempts at enforcing wealth or income equality didn’t just end up putting wealth into the pockets of those in power? I’m sure this time is different.

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