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Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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Comments in this thread represent what’s wrong with the industry. The article references sexual harassment, the commenters care about market share. Did you know it’s important to hold people accountable more, the more power they have? It’s one thing if you disagree, but making it about “winners” and “losers” and not about victims is how we ended up creating toxic workplaces.

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Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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The page won’t load but my “free articles this month” still go down every page load

The article itself is fairly generic. A rehashing of why Stallman was out in the first place, noting that he was recently re-appointed, and some quotes about why he shouldn't be involved.

See the Open Letter / Petition here for more details:

https://rms-open-letter.github.io/

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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Glad to see that Mozilla refuses to tolerate neurodiversity. Socially awkward people deserve to be permanently ostracized from society, am I right? I'm proud to use a web browser developed by people who offer no quarter to autists, schizos, and the rest of them loonies; if they wanted inclusion, they should just stop being mentally unwell - it's all in their heads, after all! Thank you, Mitchell Baker, very cool.

(/s, because on the Internet nobody knows you're a dog^W^Wbeing sarcastic)

...like, I ain't saying I like the guy or anything - he definitely seems like someone I wouldn't enjoy interacting with day-to-day - but I'm skeptical of the idea that having heterodox opinions or being a bit of a stubborn ass should be a fireable offense. If he was outright sexually assaulting people, or abusing a position of power for sex, or something like that, then sure, villainize the guy (and - better yet - pursue criminal charges), but as it stands, it seems like his worst actual offense was being a stereotypical socially awkward nerd.

But hey, if Mozilla doesn't want to associate with the FSF for whatever reason, then that's their perogative. I'm sure they'll stop using GNU and its components company-wide any day now.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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I want to like Firefox. It is at least a tolerable alternative to Chrome.

But the Mozilla foundation just taints it. Every time they come out with one of their sanctimonious PR releases they make me want to have less to do with them. I think they've completely lost their focus.

I end up bouncing between Chrome, Firefox, and Brave. Brave makes me the happiest, but it's a minor player, and I'm worried about it's long-term prospects.

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share Firefox is irrelevant. Which explains why they support things like this. If you can't win by building better software you can win by bullying anyone else who does.

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share Last I checked, ~4% is greater than Edit: It seemed pretty clear to me that, in the context of web browser usage , wmf was referring to GNU/Linux desktop usage, not server usage.

You should check better: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-leading-enterprise-li...

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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post #8
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share Firefox is irrelevant. Which explains why they support things like this. If you can't win by building better software you can win by bullying anyone else who does.

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share Last I checked, ~4% is greater than Edit: It seemed pretty clear to me that, in the context of web browser usage , wmf was referring to GNU/Linux desktop usage, not server usage.

Linux dominates in the server space [1]:

* In 2021, 100% of the world’s top 500 supercomputers run on Linux.

* Out of the top 25 websites in the world, only 2 aren’t using Linux.

* 96.3% of the world’s top 1 million servers run on Linux.

* 90% of all cloud infrastructure operates on Linux and practically all the best cloud hosts use it.

Although you are correct its windows desktop competitor has a low market share, there has been some shift towards Linux derivates such as Chromebooks that captured 10% market share in Q4 2020 and 5.3% in 2020 overall [2]

[1] https://hostingtribunal.com/blog/linux-statistics/#gref [2] https://www.geekwire.com/2021/chromebooks-outsold-macs-world...

Re: Mozilla, Tor Join Calls to Oust Richard Stallman from Free Software Foundation

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What did Stallman do specifically? Why is it always so hard to find out what someone actually said or did when they are being cancelled?

The Open Letter site itself has an Appendix that includes specifics:

https://rms-open-letter.github.io/appendix

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