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High IQs are associated with mental and physical disorders

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Re: High IQs are associated with mental and physical disorders

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Post by voxl »

jw1224 wrote: post #4
ndiscussion wrote: post #2

This is a survey of people who joined MENSA. I would posit that most normal, healthy, high-IQ folks never bother, and there's a selection bias at play.

I am normal, healthy, and a Mensa member. What exactly do you mean by that?

He's saying that, on average, a high IQ person does not find Mensa valuable or interesting and so does not bother to join.

Whereas, someone who is lonely, searching community, depressed, etc and _also_ has a high IQ would be more likely to apply and join.

The fact that you happen to be normal, healthy, and a Mensa member isn't particular important when speculating about the possible selection bias. Although, we are just speculating.

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Post by davidbanham »

jw1224 wrote: post #4
ndiscussion wrote: post #2

This is a survey of people who joined MENSA. I would posit that most normal, healthy, high-IQ folks never bother, and there's a selection bias at play.

I am normal, healthy, and a Mensa member. What exactly do you mean by that?

My contention would be that many (not all) people are drawn to Mensa because they have difficulty forming relationships in mainstream society. I’d suggest it’s this trait that correlates with mental and physical disorders.

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Post by Nokinside »

jw1224 wrote: post #4
ndiscussion wrote: post #2

This is a survey of people who joined MENSA. I would posit that most normal, healthy, high-IQ folks never bother, and there's a selection bias at play.

I am normal, healthy, and a Mensa member. What exactly do you mean by that?

>> would posit that most normal, healthy, high-IQ folks never bother, and there's a selection bias at

>I am normal, healthy, and a Mensa member What exactly do you mean by that?

This is not very high-IQ :)

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Post by tomcam »

jw1224 wrote: post #4
ndiscussion wrote: post #2

This is a survey of people who joined MENSA. I would posit that most normal, healthy, high-IQ folks never bother, and there's a selection bias at play.

I am normal, healthy, and a Mensa member. What exactly do you mean by that?

Literally that you’re a spaz? (sorry, I’d say this if you were my best friend, so nothing personal. It was just too easy. This snark was totally be worth the inevitable downvotes)

Mensa is the most boring organization I ever joined and its members the most self-aggrandizing. I quickly dropped my membership after a year. The Chamber of Commerce was infinitely more interesting.

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Post by mamon »

Foobar8568 wrote: post #7
ndiscussion wrote: post #2

This is a survey of people who joined MENSA. I would posit that most normal, healthy, high-IQ folks never bother, and there's a selection bias at play.

Moreover, you don't even need to pass an IQ test to join MENSA US. https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/

What I find interesting on that page is that the more recent (past 2-3 decades) college preparatory tests (e.g. SAT) are not accepted as substitutes to IQ tests. Shows the trend of dumbing down the tests, I guess.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

Foobar8568 wrote: post #7
ndiscussion wrote: post #2

This is a survey of people who joined MENSA. I would posit that most normal, healthy, high-IQ folks never bother, and there's a selection bias at play.

Moreover, you don't even need to pass an IQ test to join MENSA US. https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/

I struggle to see how a list of accepted IQ tests supports the idea that you don't need to pass an IQ test to join.

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Post by SimeVidas »

> Although the reasons are not fully understood, they also tend to live longer, healthier lives, and are less likely to experience negative life events such as bankruptcy.

I’ll tell you why. Smart people listen to experts. Dumb people listen to other dumb people based on feeling.

Case in point, the current pandemic. High-IQ people will get vaccinated. The people who won’t because of various conspiracy theories and misinformation are probably all low-IQ, so more of them will die.

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Post by neaden »

ndiscussion wrote: post #2

This is a survey of people who joined MENSA. I would posit that most normal, healthy, high-IQ folks never bother, and there's a selection bias at play.

Yeah, this title is extremely misleading. These are Mensa members who answered an email survey, generalizing it like this isn't valid.
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