Choosing to bring RMS back to the FSF is a guarantee that it becomes even more irrelevant than it already has.
An open letter in support of RMS being reinstated by the FSF
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Re: An open letter in support of RMS being reinstated by the FSF
#12I fully support RMS being on the FSF board for life. (I also think he would be fantastic making a cameo in a bit part in Disney's Mandalorian series, bitching about "damned proprietary code" used in imperial droids that makes them hard to reprogram but that's another topic for another message board...)
I find it hard to support a guy that says stuff like this: "There is a perverse movement among women to think that they should carry fetuses with Downs' syndrome to term, rather than abort them and try again. ... Next, people will take thalidomide to demonstrate how they can love babies born without limbs." - RMS
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Re: An open letter in support of RMS being reinstated by the FSF
#13Shame on everyone who signs this letter. I personally know two women who've been sexually harassed by this creep. He has no place in leadership.
So we should be shameful for basing conclusions on what non-anecdotal information we've been exposed to?
I've had such encounters with someone many on HN would know. I don't hold anyone accountable for mentioning their name or talking nicely about them because how could they possibly know what happened behind closed doors?
Re: An open letter in support of RMS being reinstated by the FSF
#14For those that are new to this topic this is quite a good read: - https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web
Does anybody else find it a little scary to comment on this topic in case they get called out and targeted as well? The well written link posted to “wetheweb” discusses this a bit. Some quotes: > According to the Atlantic, a full 80 percent of Americans believe that “political correctness is a problem in our country.” While today some smear the free speech movement as a “racist dog-whistle” or a “far-right talking po…
Yes.
Re: An open letter in support of RMS being reinstated by the FSF
#15I fully support RMS being on the FSF board for life. (I also think he would be fantastic making a cameo in a bit part in Disney's Mandalorian series, bitching about "damned proprietary code" used in imperial droids that makes them hard to reprogram but that's another topic for another message board...)
I find it hard to support a guy that says stuff like this: "There is a perverse movement among women to think that they should carry fetuses with Downs' syndrome to term, rather than abort them and try again. ... Next, people will take thalidomide to demonstrate how they can love babies born without limbs." - RMS
You are, of course, free to choose who to support.
Does "support RMS being on the FSF board for life" mean supporting him on everything he says, or even suggest supporting him for this quote?
Re: An open letter in support of RMS being reinstated by the FSF
#16I support RMS but also believe he should be removed from the board of the FSF a second time.
Let's let him continue to advocate for free software and ensure he is able to support himself, but let's also try not to discourage people from participating because they're in fear of being harrassed or excluded.
I won't sign either letter, but of the two, I think this one is better. Neither has the right conclusion. The other suggests he be banned from the community entirely.
Edit: the other letter has a lot higher caliber of signers. I think there are a lot of influential people in the FLOSS community who haven't signed either though. Perhaps a new letter should be made that is just about removing him from the board of the FSF and from other leadership positions (including the GNU Project).
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#17Re: An open letter in support of RMS being reinstated by the FSF
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it hard to support a guy that says stuff like this: "There is a perverse movement among women to think that they should carry fetuses with Downs' syndrome to term, rather than abort them and try again. ... Next, people will take thalidomide to demonstrate how they can love babies born without limbs." - RMS
What does this have to do with his tenure on the FSF?
Nothing at all.
But I would understand if people that are part of the FSF would not like to associate with him.
Re: An open letter in support of RMS being reinstated by the FSF
#19For those that are new to this topic this is quite a good read: - https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web
Does anybody else find it a little scary to comment on this topic in case they get called out and targeted as well? The well written link posted to “wetheweb” discusses this a bit. Some quotes: > According to the Atlantic, a full 80 percent of Americans believe that “political correctness is a problem in our country.” While today some smear the free speech movement as a “racist dog-whistle” or a “far-right talking po…
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Re: An open letter in support of RMS being reinstated by the FSF
#20I fully support RMS being on the FSF board for life. (I also think he would be fantastic making a cameo in a bit part in Disney's Mandalorian series, bitching about "damned proprietary code" used in imperial droids that makes them hard to reprogram but that's another topic for another message board...)
Something tells me RMS would never in a million years work with Disney... He's been quite vocal against them for years.
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