I'd pay real money for a browser with a slow, safe JS interpreter.
Hackers used zerodays to infect Windows, iOS, and Android users
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#12It seems that a watering hole attack by definition targets users of a particular organization, but articles on this event make no mention of which organizations would that be, sounding like it affects general public. Wondering who should be worried. Related: can community recommend some forums, periodic publications or other sources that aggregate information security news?
Keep an eye on r/sysadmin in Reddit.
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#13Disabling Javascript would have helped. You can even use tools like uMatrix to set exceptions per site so you're not exposing yourself to every single site on the internet by default. Though you won't see online news sites suggest this since their revenue is so tied to Javascript being enabled.
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#14The scare quotes in the title read as sarcasm but they clearly didn’t intend them as such. An odd choice as I almost overlooked the article assuming it was a tale of some failed hackers.
Re: Hackers used zerodays to infect Windows, iOS, and Android users
#15It seems that a watering hole attack by definition targets users of a particular organization, but articles on this event make no mention of which organizations would that be, sounding like it affects general public. Wondering who should be worried. Related: can community recommend some forums, periodic publications or other sources that aggregate information security news?
"can community recommend some forums" Keep an eye on r/sysadmin in Reddit.
Re: Hackers used zerodays to infect Windows, iOS, and Android users
#16The scare quotes in the title read as sarcasm but they clearly didn’t intend them as such. An odd choice as I almost overlooked the article assuming it was a tale of some failed hackers.
Re: Hackers used zerodays to infect Windows, iOS, and Android users
#17If a PC is infected I can (and should) reinstall everything from scratch. That should remove the malware, barring some super resistant malware that hides in the BIOS or something like that. What do you do on an iOS device? Does a full device reset reinstall the OS, or does it simply remove all user settings? I feel like the locked down nature of iOS makes it harder to attack, but if an attack goes thru it would also…
Given the price of iOS devices vs good security consultant hourlies, the easiest and most effective clean-up for a few devices is likely just starting over.
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#18>The importance of keeping apps and OSes up to date and avoiding suspicious websites still stands. Unfortunately, neither of those things would have helped the victims hacked by this unknown group. Disabling Javascript would have helped. You can even use tools like uMatrix to set exceptions per site so you're not exposing yourself to every single site on the internet by default. Though you won't see online news sites…
The average user doesn't know anything about how sites are constructed. Telling them to use uMatrix is non sensical.
Though that's not to say there's good advice on these kinds of sites.
I've seen a "Windows 10 tips" list from a very popular site telling users that "they don't like being patronised about their own computer" and recommends turning off UAC (Essentially running their account as root)
Or even saying that updating your OS is frustrating so here's how to disable it.
Absolutely dangerous advice but that's the level of general computer sites.
Re: Hackers used zerodays to infect Windows, iOS, and Android users
#19>The importance of keeping apps and OSes up to date and avoiding suspicious websites still stands. Unfortunately, neither of those things would have helped the victims hacked by this unknown group. Disabling Javascript would have helped. You can even use tools like uMatrix to set exceptions per site so you're not exposing yourself to every single site on the internet by default. Though you won't see online news sites…
Thank you for saying that. I'm one of first in 2005/2006 advocating JS rendering in the browser. JS in the browser has really gotten out of hand. I no longer advocate to do everything on the client/browser side. A web site should just work without JS.
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#20The scare quotes in the title read as sarcasm but they clearly didn’t intend them as such. An odd choice as I almost overlooked the article assuming it was a tale of some failed hackers.
The author uses quotes as actual quotes instead of as scare quotes. I'm not a fan of "scare" quotes so I'd be very pleased if other journalists did the same even if it takes some getting used to.
> Expert (!) hackers used...
I hope then it's clear they are not experts really and when I say "experts" it's clear that I'm just quoting.