I assume they use phone data to do this.
If you were tricky you could work out which car a phone was in from the fingerprinting accelerometer data and other things.
But I suspect they are mostly exaggerating.
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#12I assume they use phone data to do this. If you were tricky you could work out which car a phone was in from the fingerprinting accelerometer data and other things. But I suspect they are mostly exaggerating.
I'm wondering how they're getting access to data from cars all over the world "except Cuba and North Korea."
Does one database actually exist or are they tapping in from a number of sources. It all feels a little too sci-fi.
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#13I assume they use phone data to do this. If you were tricky you could work out which car a phone was in from the fingerprinting accelerometer data and other things. But I suspect they are mostly exaggerating.
> Vehicle location data is transmitted on a constant and near real time basis while the vehicle is operating
So they are obtaining it from connected cars.
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#14Article doesn't mention license plate readers, which are quite common nowadays.
Also, in addition to plates, wouldn't it be possible to monitor cellphone metadata in real time? Every phone is constantly checking into a base station, whether it is currently in use or not.
After a while it would be easy to build up a very useful database that not only kept track of cars but also kept track of the cellphones associated with those cars.
I can't see how to prevent any of this from happening.
For all I know, Homeland Security already does all this. About the only thing keeping them from doing it is that some external contractor would probably charge them $billions to design and integrate this, and maybe they just haven't spent the money yet.
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#15I assume they use phone data to do this. If you were tricky you could work out which car a phone was in from the fingerprinting accelerometer data and other things. But I suspect they are mostly exaggerating.
I'm wondering how they're getting access to data from cars all over the world "except Cuba and North Korea." Does one database actually exist or are they tapping in from a number of sources. It all feels a little too sci-fi.
Well, it has to be advertising on apps on a phone. You need more than the cell towers from the phone, if you could get them.
Cuba and North Korea have no traffic layer on Google maps. But there's a few other that don't as well like Yemen and South Korea which is interesting. But I remember watching the protests in Iran on Google maps, which does have the layer.
This would be useful, matching traffic speed to user speed would help with motos and bikes. Other countries might be on Waze or similar.
Or it might only be legal issues their end dealing with data from those countries.
https://developers.google.com/maps/coverage
Maybe they are lying or maybe it's all crappy fleet cars. Which no one would care about, until after they buy the access I guess.
Ulysses actually say what the headline claims "Nearly Any Car in Real-Time" - https://strangesounds.org/2021/03/car-location-gps-privacy-d...
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't sound like you're in a very strong position to condemn them, then.
What better way to open your eyes than be inside the belly of the beast? People can grow and have regrets.
People can grow and have regrets but immediately telling everyone else doing the same thing you were just doing to rot in hell is a little much.