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That time Sprinklr's VP of design tried to get me fired

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Re: That time Sprinklr's VP of design tried to get me fired

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Post by brianberns »

minimaxir wrote: post #9
brianberns wrote: post #7

I fully support this lady’s “right to say dumb shit on the internet”, but if Gina Carano can be fired by Disney for her tweets, so can she (who actually wasn’t even fired). Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequences.

There's a difference between being fired for an innocuous negative joke about a company and being fired for transphobia and antisemitism .

Of course there is, but the relevant similarity is that both cases caused a negative impact on their respective employers from actual and/or prospective customers. Employers have every right to dislike that.

Re: That time Sprinklr's VP of design tried to get me fired

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Post by Aqua »

> So I looked at my husband and asked the big question: How far would he support me in taking this? What if I didn’t delete the tweet and I got fired for it and we lost our health insurance? He told me to stand my ground, even though he’s in multiple high-risk categories for COVID as a cancer survivor with asthma, and that’s why I love him so much.

Heh I'll probably get downvoted for saying this, but that's not brave, that's just plain irresponsible and stupid, she's literally trading more risk(and that risk concerns her family too) for no gain whatsoever (it costs nothing to delete a tweet, but the loss of her job could potentially cost her everything).

Be smarter and pick your battles wisely.

Re: That time Sprinklr's VP of design tried to get me fired

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Post by yanderekko »

minimaxir wrote: post #9
brianberns wrote: post #7

I fully support this lady’s “right to say dumb shit on the internet”, but if Gina Carano can be fired by Disney for her tweets, so can she (who actually wasn’t even fired). Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequences.

There's a difference between being fired for an innocuous negative joke about a company and being fired for transphobia and antisemitism .

Right, as long as you can pretextually (very pretextually, in the Gina Carano case) justify your outrage as "punching up" along those lines, you're fine! The OP clearly understands this as well, as she repeatedly stresses that the person who was upset with her was both male and likely richer than her (I'll assume that he wasn't white, or else that likely would have been mentioned as well) - therefore any sort of negative action against her would be unjustifiable since there's no "punching up" narrative, and if he ends up being punished then we can celebrate.

Re: That time Sprinklr's VP of design tried to get me fired

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Post by restingrobot »

Aqua wrote: post #12

> So I looked at my husband and asked the big question: How far would he support me in taking this? What if I didn’t delete the tweet and I got fired for it and we lost our health insurance? He told me to stand my ground, even though he’s in multiple high-risk categories for COVID as a cancer survivor with asthma, and that’s why I love him so much. Heh I'll probably get downvoted for saying this, but that's not brave…

I think most sane people agree with this; its a tweet, delete it and move on. But we live in a world where supposed virtue and feelings matter more to some people than rational thought. If I were an interested party in Figma and this tweet cost the company a big sale, of course I would fire the employee. This whole "feelings before business" is asinine and I hate that these posts are becoming more and more common.

Re: That time Sprinklr's VP of design tried to get me fired

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Post by readflaggedcomm »

ugh123 wrote: post #13

I had to read this twice to understand how the Sprinklr VP tried to get her fired. He didn't. They threatened legal action and thats about it. The author overreacted and then let that contribute to "burn out" which influenced her decision to leave the company.

He was "in a position of power" and she was willing to be fired. Her feelings are valid even if she isn't a white male.

Re: That time Sprinklr's VP of design tried to get me fired

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Post by restingrobot »

yanderekko wrote: post #14
minimaxir wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a difference between being fired for an innocuous negative joke about a company and being fired for transphobia and antisemitism .

Right, as long as you can pretextually (very pretextually, in the Gina Carano case) justify your outrage as "punching up" along those lines, you're fine! The OP clearly understands this as well, as she repeatedly stresses that the person who was upset with her was both male and likely richer than her (I'll assume that he wasn't white, or else that likely would have been mentioned as well) - therefore any sort of nega…

Boom, hit the nail on the head. There is absolutely no other reason to include this information in the blog other than to set up this (lack of) narrative.

Re: That time Sprinklr's VP of design tried to get me fired

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Post by viklove »

restingrobot wrote: post #15
Aqua wrote: post #12

> So I looked at my husband and asked the big question: How far would he support me in taking this? What if I didn’t delete the tweet and I got fired for it and we lost our health insurance? He told me to stand my ground, even though he’s in multiple high-risk categories for COVID as a cancer survivor with asthma, and that’s why I love him so much. Heh I'll probably get downvoted for saying this, but that's not brave…

I think most sane people agree with this; its a tweet, delete it and move on. But we live in a world where supposed virtue and feelings matter more to some people than rational thought. If I were an interested party in Figma and this tweet cost the company a big sale, of course I would fire the employee. This whole "feelings before business" is asinine and I hate that these posts are becoming more and more common.

Honestly though, I would have done mostly the same thing she did in this situation.

One thing about living in the 21st century is this constant understanding that you're tiny and these huge corporations can swing their balls and knock you out in the process. Being able to stick it to a billion-dollar corp, to the point of them threatening a lawsuit against you, is hilarious.

Now, I have a high-paying job and enough in savings to hold out for a few years with no income, so I'm not saying everyone should do this. But yeah, I would gladly go down if it meant I could flip the bird to these narcissistic assholes who think everyone in the world should bow down to them because they're rich.

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