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Re: Show HN: Dendron – fast open-source note-taking in VSCode

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How are people using tools like this and Roam, Obesdian, etc. etc. etc? Personally I could see the use if you were writing a book or something, but I feel like in practice for normal notes I would just have all of these notes that I'd never look at again or spend so much time traversing my notes and not getting things done. As someone with distractive tendencies I'd love to hear the situations where this is useful so…

A big part of my note-taking is just to get stuff out of my brain. I might never revisit any of it, and that's fine. If I write it down I know I can always go back when I need to, but if I don't, it's going to be an annoying distraction in my subconscious.

A lot of my note-taking therefore becomes an excuse to successfully ignore the things I know I don't need to pay attention to.

I do have a bunch of notes that I use for everyday stuff, however. My engineering journal is a hierarchical notebook, allowing me to go back and see all of the contributions I've made to $PROJECT, which is great come review time.

I also have a tech notes section for problems that I seem to have to solve over and over again. For example, every time we have a power outage, my Mac Mini gets stuck in a reset password screen, and I need to reset the NVRAM to fix it. I don't remember the keycode to do that, so I have a note called "Fix mac mini password reset" that tells me that it's `Cmd-option-p-r`.

Lastly, anything that might be good in a self-hosted wiki goes in my notebook; basically, my own little set of `README.md`s.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – fast open-source note-taking in VSCode

#12

How are people using tools like this and Roam, Obesdian, etc. etc. etc? Personally I could see the use if you were writing a book or something, but I feel like in practice for normal notes I would just have all of these notes that I'd never look at again or spend so much time traversing my notes and not getting things done. As someone with distractive tendencies I'd love to hear the situations where this is useful so…

I’m with you, tried it but couldn’t keep up. I didn’t commit to it for very long which isn’t a fair trial, but I just didn’t see it panning out.

One thing I realized was that most of my notes were links to pages on the internet with maybe a few extra words as context, and the rest were chicken scratch step-by-step things I did setting up something nontrivially complex. For the links, now I just use bookmarks in Firefox and add tags religiously to make them searchable. For the step-by-steps... I’m not really sure what to do, thinking of running a WebDAV server on my LAN and using Joplin as a client to just contain arbitrary markdown docs.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – fast open-source note-taking in VSCode

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This get's posted to HN fairly frequently, always as a new Show HN.

https://hn.algolia.com/?q=dendron.so

Each time, it catches my interest, I try it out, and I cannot make it work for me. It looks really fantastic with a lot of documentation, but learning curve, preview, conflicting with existing vscode plugins, etc;

I'll likely continue to try it out, because the marketing and documentation looks so good. Having spent a fair bit of time on this now, I don't think it's really possible to have a good experience with VSCode as the input.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – fast open-source note-taking in VSCode

#15

How are people using tools like this and Roam, Obesdian, etc. etc. etc? Personally I could see the use if you were writing a book or something, but I feel like in practice for normal notes I would just have all of these notes that I'd never look at again or spend so much time traversing my notes and not getting things done. As someone with distractive tendencies I'd love to hear the situations where this is useful so…

I believe this does not work well. At least it did not for me.

We routinely conflate todos/plans ('need to do this') , observations and patterns ('this is what i see happening when...'), events ('this happened...') and learnings ('this is what i did wrong, right...') as "notes".

I started with dropping everything in notational velocity (till it broke on my Mac upgrade) and / or 'email thyself' and like you said, it builds and its there but of little or no use. Unless its in my brain, I can't make connections. Without connections I cannot recall when I need it. It really does not help. Its actually net negative with the effort that goes into putting it in there.

I now use Google docs. One doc for each topic I am currently working on (e.g interview preparation, home purchase research, kubernetes, etc..) This builds topic wise documents which are exponentially faster to navigate/guess without needing text search or any filing system. I can skim through 1-2 documents and it provides context, history, insights, quotes in 1 place that I try and read more often which tends to stick in my head. Also given that I am more a visual learner, the place where something particular was on a document also brings in what was written next to it simply because I've seen it so often.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – fast open-source note-taking in VSCode

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There's a weird recursive bug I found on dendron.so where if I click the "Blog" heading, go to "Film" on the left, choose "Agents of Shield", click one of the notes to get a tooltip saying "This page has not sprouted yet", and then click the "Dendron" link in that tooltip. What I'm seeing is dendron.so within dendron.so. This process can be repeated using the inner frame.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – fast open-source note-taking in VSCode

#17

There's a weird recursive bug I found on dendron.so where if I click the "Blog" heading, go to "Film" on the left, choose "Agents of Shield", click one of the notes to get a tooltip saying "This page has not sprouted yet", and then click the "Dendron" link in that tooltip. What I'm seeing is dendron.so within dendron.so. This process can be repeated using the inner frame.

nice find! just fixed

Re: Show HN: Dendron – fast open-source note-taking in VSCode

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post #14

This get's posted to HN fairly frequently, always as a new Show HN. https://hn.algolia.com/?q=dendron.so Each time, it catches my interest, I try it out, and I cannot make it work for me. It looks really fantastic with a lot of documentation, but learning curve, preview, conflicting with existing vscode plugins, etc; I'll likely continue to try it out, because the marketing and documentation looks so good. Having spe…

We've been doing weekly iterations so there's been a bunch of changes between posts.

As for the learning curve, yes, you're right and we're working on it.

We just launched a new tutorial: https://wiki.dendron.so/notes/678c77d9-ef2c-4537-97b5-64556d...

One of our users also made a great video series about Dendron on egghead: https://t.co/qIRvQqtttZ

Re: Show HN: Dendron – fast open-source note-taking in VSCode

#19

We have so many roam-alikes but so very few with web publishing as a first-class citizen and the ones that do have it paywalled (Roam, Obsidian) or don't support org-mode (Neuron v2 though there's plans to reintroduce), which just blows Markdown out of the water.

https://commonplace.doubleloop.net/publishing-org-roam-via-g...

To be honest, I don’t see much appeal in publishing your entire unfiltered notes to the web. Synthesize interesting portions of them occasionally into coherent blog posts that other people can consume without digging through a forest of links, backlinks, and footnotes.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – fast open-source note-taking in VSCode

#20
post #5

Founder here. I started Dendron because I was frustrated with the lack of good note taking tools while working as a developer at AWS. I wanted something with the ease of notepad, the structure of evernote, and the speed of redis. Iterating over these features led me to Dendron and its been battle tested with my own collection of 30K+ notes

Did you find any features in particular lacking in Obsidian?

Dendron's main difference from obsidian is that we put the emphasis on structuring and organizing your notes.

Obsidian (and other tools like it) focus on backlinks and using a graph to connect your ideas. This is valuable for connecting disparate ideas but its still hard to find any individual note once you have a lot of them.

Dendron helps you organize your notes into hierarchies that you can enforce using schemas (think type system but for your hierarchies)

The problem we're solving: once you have hundreds or thousands of notes, how do you find a specific one?

More on this here: https://wiki.dendron.so/notes/683740e3-70ce-4a47-a1f4-1f140e...

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