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Re: Gay programmers

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I agree actually. Gays are as intelligent as straights, on average. So are women. But I think it takes a real man to implement a complicated app.

a "real man"? I'm a straight white male and I'm insulted by that statement. You have to be a troll to say something as ignorant as that.

> I'm a straight white male

I find it interesting that you decided to mention your race.

Re: Gay programmers

#12
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a "real man"? I'm a straight white male and I'm insulted by that statement. You have to be a troll to say something as ignorant as that.

> I'm a straight white male I find it interesting that you decided to mention your race.

There's (in my country) something of a running joke concerning "WASP"s and the archetype I get lumped into.

It's just part of the whole mise en scene concerning my background and about how I'm supposed to be some sort of ignorant rich bastard or something. (FTR, I'm quite poor, an an atheist.)

I find it interesting you decided not to mention the point I was raising.

EDITS: Grammar, additions.

Re: Gay programmers

#14
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Most likely, your sample is not statistically significant. How would someone's sexual orientation affect their coding?

My sample is 3-4 : bad. 0.8 (suspected gay) : good. That's not counting Von Neumann. This isn't statistically significant. That's why I'm asking about others' opinions. Why is everyone so quick to say girls tend to be bad programmers, but gay programmers are a touchy subject? This is not a troll. I'm just stimulating a discussion that AFAIK has never taken place before. Thanks

For the record I've only ever met one gay programmer and he was "bad".

He'd never coded prior to school, and he treated it purely as a "career" in which he thought he could make "good money".

It was his attitude towards the profession and not his actual skill that bothered me. An earnest but poor programmer can be fixed and is respectable, the sort of fuck that floods our profession with these ideas that we make insane money or something is obnoxious.

EDIT: Never gave a shit or a thought at any point to the fact that he was gay.

Re: Gay programmers

#15
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm a straight white male I find it interesting that you decided to mention your race.

There's (in my country) something of a running joke concerning "WASP"s and the archetype I get lumped into. It's just part of the whole mise en scene concerning my background and about how I'm supposed to be some sort of ignorant rich bastard or something. (FTR, I'm quite poor, an an atheist.) I find it interesting you decided not to mention the point I was raising. EDITS: Grammar, additions.

So you are not a WASP. Case closed.

Re: Gay programmers

#16
I'm a gay programmer, and I'm not quite sure how my sexual orientation would affect how I code. If it is any help, most of the people around me seem to think I'm competent enough, at least to the point that they don't complain about what I write to my face. Perhaps they'll find this thread and respond.

The more interesting question, at least to me, would be about the experiences of gay programmers (I guess I'm biased). I can't speak for all gay programmers, but I know that my sexual orientation would certainly affect the people I choose to work for (e.g.: I'd like to work for someone who provided benefits for a same-sex partner, or who donated money to gay rights causes, while I'd probably not ever work for a company with a history of opposing (with policies or money) gay rights). It probably also affects the atmosphere of the place that I do work: perhaps co-workers deal with a gay colleague differently (not necessarily on a good/bad continuum: only differently) than they would a straight colleague. I could go on, but you probably get the idea.

Most of the replies present when I started this comment were skeptical of the possibility of a correlation between sexual orientation and code quality. I happen to agree. What about the correlation between sexual orientation and employment in certain industries (affecting what code we write)? What about sexual orientation and choosing to be a programmer at all?

I'm kind of hoping that this doesn't get downvoted to oblivion: it might make for an interesting discussion (or flame war).

Re: Gay programmers

#17
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I'm calling troll, but you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Turing.

You're right about Turing. He was the gay one, not von Neumann. I can't help but wonder however, how come you know so much about homosexuality amongst coders? Is it perhaps because of your own deviances? (I'm just curious. If the question is too personal, you don't have to answer)

news.yc needs a report button.

Re: Gay programmers

#18

I'm a gay programmer, and I'm not quite sure how my sexual orientation would affect how I code. If it is any help, most of the people around me seem to think I'm competent enough, at least to the point that they don't complain about what I write to my face. Perhaps they'll find this thread and respond. The more interesting question, at least to me, would be about the experiences of gay programmers (I guess I'm biased…

But you are not skeptical about correlations between programming talent and gender, are you?

Re: Gay programmers

#19

I'm a gay programmer, and I'm not quite sure how my sexual orientation would affect how I code. If it is any help, most of the people around me seem to think I'm competent enough, at least to the point that they don't complain about what I write to my face. Perhaps they'll find this thread and respond. The more interesting question, at least to me, would be about the experiences of gay programmers (I guess I'm biased…

... Do you find it too far-fetched to think of wanting to kiss a fireman as a girlish quality?

Re: Gay programmers

#20
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's (in my country) something of a running joke concerning "WASP"s and the archetype I get lumped into. It's just part of the whole mise en scene concerning my background and about how I'm supposed to be some sort of ignorant rich bastard or something. (FTR, I'm quite poor, an an atheist.) I find it interesting you decided not to mention the point I was raising. EDITS: Grammar, additions.

So you are not a WASP. Case closed.

I'm white and anglo saxon, the stereotype is created when someone sees me in person. That's the point.

You're a semantic troll. Bugger off YC, seriously.

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