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Flipper Zero: Tamagochi for Hackers
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#12So... babby's first FCC violation?
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#13Is this anything more than a pipedream at this point? I've seen it come up multiple times over the last year, and yet a quick skim through the Github shows that there's not really anything done other than some basic planning/brainstorming. Seems a bit early to be taking preorders.
They posted a video of a preproduction unit that looks pretty far along: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KDvdWo2h10c&feature=emb_title Seems like a reasonable point to start taking preorders to me.
Ok that's fair, I hadn't seen that. They really should have more "real" photos/videos of it on their website then. A flashy website full of renders then a link to a Github that's 99% empty and full of "We're at Stage 0" etc just gave off lots of warning signs to me personally.
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#14I’m not particularly familiar with FCC law, but don’t they tend to... not approve things like this? Not being sarcastic, honest question.
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#15$10 isn't a bad price for the item in question, but that really depends on how much they're going to charge for shipping, which I couldn't find information on. If they charge $10 more for shipping, $20 for this product seems a bit high.
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#16$10 isn't a bad price for the item in question, but that really depends on how much they're going to charge for shipping, which I couldn't find information on. If they charge $10 more for shipping, $20 for this product seems a bit high.
Note that the product is NOT $10. The $10 charge is for a pre-order ticket and a $40 off coupon on the actual product, which retails for $170
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#17$10 isn't a bad price for the item in question, but that really depends on how much they're going to charge for shipping, which I couldn't find information on. If they charge $10 more for shipping, $20 for this product seems a bit high.
If this was $10 this would be the biggest steal ever. That is ridiculously cheap for this device. The device actually costs $129 (with pre-order) or $169. The $10 is just to reserve a pre-order spot/raise money for the company.
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#18I’m not particularly familiar with FCC law, but don’t they tend to... not approve things like this? Not being sarcastic, honest question.
The FCC care about emissions criteria in various frequency bands. They are worried about undue interference with other devices caused by incorrect use of spectrum or inadequate and poorly made transmission equipment, not protocol level reverse engineering concerns.
If Flipper can supply a device to an FCC approved testing lab which passes the emission criteria in the emitted bands, I don't see why they couldn't get approvals in those bands. For example, for NFC, Flipper is no different from a normal Android phone with respect to compliance.
They'll have to get the 433Mhz "Tamagochi" feature compliance approved, and that gets them the CC1101 chip signed off to live in the device. Notice how the homepage cleverly does not mention any transmitting features besides NFC/LF RFID and the Tamagochi one...
Probably they will have to include a "locked" firmware with any arbitrary SDR transmission features above and beyond approved frequencies/bands disabled, and the user will be responsible for compliance past that point.
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#19Is this anything more than a pipedream at this point? I've seen it come up multiple times over the last year, and yet a quick skim through the Github shows that there's not really anything done other than some basic planning/brainstorming. Seems a bit early to be taking preorders.
It's a kickstarter, so it's going to run behind. I consider it gambling for fun toys, sometimes they work out and sometimes they don't. They've sent out a stream of updates over the past year so i'm really not worried about them defaulting. They've taken a step back and redesigned the hardware since they reached enough funding stretch-goals to include several kitchen sinks now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDvdWo2h10c
Over a decade ago I backed the Bus Pirate early on and even though I got a unit shipped, it never worked. Defective code shipped on my batch and it wasn't until a few years ago that I figured out that's what was wrong. Even if I had figured that out early on I don't have access to an expensive Pic programmer then so I couldn't do anything to fix it then. The Flipper is Arduino compatible so updating the code shouldn't require a programmer unless something blows up the chips bootloader.
They are hiring, if you speak Russian that is: https://www.flipperdevices.com/jobs
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#20$10 isn't a bad price for the item in question, but that really depends on how much they're going to charge for shipping, which I couldn't find information on. If they charge $10 more for shipping, $20 for this product seems a bit high.
If you think $20 is high, wait until you find out that it's actually $170. The $10 for preordering is just to reserve a unit. The preorder does include a $40 coupon though, so the total price for preorders is $140 ($170 device + $10 preorder - $40 coupon) + shipping and taxes.