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Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

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Re: Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

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>I have never considered that “having chemistry with the team” could be a reason for being let go.

That's what worries me too.

I like to throw a racist jokes, especially about my own nation from time to time

and I guess I'd have hard time in corpos and companies like faang because polacks tend to lack of thick skin /s

Re: Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

#12

I'm sorry you had to go through all of this. As myself being part of a minority, I can only tell you that I do my best to fight for minorities and women first in this IT env that can be rough. Keep faith cause I've worked in different companies where everyone was really accepted and celebrated. Thank you for writing this article: hopefully, straight IT men will hear us and fight too.

I don't think the poster of this article is the author

Re: Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

#13

I'm sorry you had to go through all of this. As myself being part of a minority, I can only tell you that I do my best to fight for minorities and women first in this IT env that can be rough. Keep faith cause I've worked in different companies where everyone was really accepted and celebrated. Thank you for writing this article: hopefully, straight IT men will hear us and fight too.

Genuine question: Have you read the article?

The article is just as much for those who are trying to help women and minorities as it is for those who are biased.

Re: Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

#14

>I have never considered that “having chemistry with the team” could be a reason for being let go. That's what worries me too. I like to throw a racist jokes, especially about my own nation from time to time and I guess I'd have hard time in corpos and companies like faang because polacks tend to lack of thick skin /s

Generally one should read the room before opening the barn door of ethnic jokes.

Re: Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

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> I was even madder when I found the data science interns hired in a parallel recruitment process had been submitted to technical challenges. That's the miracle of "affirmative action" or whatever you want to call it. When looking at candidates internally, if a company decides to do affirmative action there are those that you know are there because of their skills (non-diverse individuals) and there are the other one…

Recruiters don’t make the final decisions on hiring. The bonuses incentivize them or seek out diverse clients, not to lower standards. And your whole argument is, unfortunately, the standard-issue objection to any efforts to change an unfair system by, just to rub it in, once again blaming its victims.

Why don’t you ever suspect that young white guy to just have the job bececause their father knows the CXO from golf? Did that sysadmin use to room with the tech lead in colleges? Empirically, such employment biographies are far more common than your hypotheticals. Gut somehow, they do not seem to provoke this righteous anger of meritocracy.

Re: Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

#17
Times like these make it critical to discern between those of a certain gender vs those without talent (or discipline, or perhaps both).

This is difficult to do without unfairly discounting the cases where people with talent still encounter unfair discrimination ...but this isn't it.

There are plenty of female developers / engineers who have their colleagues' respect. They would also never find out they are diversity hires.

If you are simply bad at your job, but also [protected status here], it's suddenly somehow newsworthy - I never liked this part of our culture.

Re: Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

#18

Firing someone for a "lack of chemistry" and refusing to give details is a Grade A dick move.

IANAL, but I think the general perception is that by giving reasons, one exposes the employer to additional risk of a lawsuit.

So IIUC, the legal system carries some of the blame here.

Re: Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... which is exactly why the post points out the need for the applicant to be informed about affirmative action being applied. If you know how much AA was applied, you can actually make a better argument when you're mistreated. [for the people downvoting: I'm just pointing out what the article says.]

Sure. Company wide email: "Careful with these demographics: make sure to re-interview them before joining your team, they might not have had a proper technical screen." The lawsuit would be hilarious.

as someone who would make a diversity hire myself I am aghast at how this situation isn't taken as a opportunity to show the fools who hired me how utterly wrongly they've judged me. this reads like it's creating the very conditions for not achieving that, born out by the litany of positions held too briefly for making anything out of them at all.

Re: Four times I felt discriminated against for being a female developer

#20
I don't have many female colleges. The ones I work with, I like them.

They are in avg more social.

But I also had one boss who did not want to hire one woman because " what happens when she gets pregnant" and we did hire her because she was good and I stood up for her.

I should not need do so this!

I think we would be better if with have more woman in our teams.

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