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Launch HN: PingPong (YC W21) – Video messaging for remote teams

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Re: Launch HN: PingPong (YC W21) – Video messaging for remote teams

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Post by jeffwhitlock »

sneak wrote: post #8
jeffwhitlock wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good question/feedback. The app is not currently end-to-end encrypted. We've looked into doing this but haven't found a way to do it while supporting transcription. We're currently planning on implementing single-use keys to balance security with transcription needs. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

Is transcription really a critical/killer feature? Does the product fall down without it? Can it be done clientside and then the transcribed data be encrypted e2e alongside the av streams? For me if it's not e2e it's a nonstarter, which means I'm not using the transcription feature because I'm not using the product at all.

For some transcription seems to be critical (see the search-ability knowledge comment above), but e2e is a deal-break for others. I totally understand where you're coming from too.

Perhaps we'll figure out a client-side solution or create ab e2e channel setting where transcription is disabled.

Really appreciate the push to figure this out.

Re: Launch HN: PingPong (YC W21) – Video messaging for remote teams

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Post by cmorss »

jeffwhitlock wrote: post #7
ZeroOneDz wrote: post #3

Looks like you forgot to configure Google auth origin

Thanks for pointing this out. Did you happen to do this in incognito or different privacy mode? We have a bug where Google auth does not work in these modes.

I'm not the original poster, but I also had the same issue. I'm not in an incognito window nor do I have any special privacy mode (I'm using Chrome on OSX).

Error 400: redirect_uri_mismatch The JavaScript origin in the request, https://www.getpingpong.com, does not match the ones authorized for the OAuth client. Visit https://console.developers.google.com/apis/credentials/oauth... to update the authorized JavaScript origins.

Re: Launch HN: PingPong (YC W21) – Video messaging for remote teams

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Post by jeffwhitlock »

cmorss wrote: post #12
jeffwhitlock wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for pointing this out. Did you happen to do this in incognito or different privacy mode? We have a bug where Google auth does not work in these modes.

I'm not the original poster, but I also had the same issue. I'm not in an incognito window nor do I have any special privacy mode (I'm using Chrome on OSX). Error 400: redirect_uri_mismatch The JavaScript origin in the request, https://www.getpingpong.com , does not match the ones authorized for the OAuth client. Visit https://console.developers.google.com/apis/credentials/oauth... to update the authorized JavaScript…

Thank you so much for reporting this. Figured out what's causing the the issue and are fixing it now.

Re: Launch HN: PingPong (YC W21) – Video messaging for remote teams

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Post by saurik »

jeffwhitlock wrote: post #10
nafizh wrote: post #9

Hey, congrats on your launch. The first thing that comes to my mind is I hate recording myself. Even on zoom meetings I try to turn the video off as much as possible. It also seems easier to me to share a thought or suggestion over chat when there is no expectation of instant reply given writing something down forces you to filter your thoughts and specify the concrete details. How do you show the utility of self-rec…

Out of curiosity, is this true for voice and video or just video? We added voice recordings as a feature for people who don't want to record themselves on camera. We're also adding text as a "type" of message you can send. One of the interesting things we've noticed is that recording yourself seems to encourage more intentionality in what is being said than a quick chat or SMS (maybe because you're more self-aware wh…

I think this intentionality comes from the person more than the tool; like, as obvious as it is to you that chat causes people to dump a stream of consciousness while audio forces people to be "intentional" and think about what they are saying, it is frankly just as obvious to me that when people are speaking they tend to "ramble" as they attempt to somehow construct a thought on the fly (and often end up repeating things they have already said) whereas with text people construct and edit well-organized and considered statements.

Re: Launch HN: PingPong (YC W21) – Video messaging for remote teams

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Post by jeffwhitlock »

saurik wrote: post #17
jeffwhitlock wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, is this true for voice and video or just video? We added voice recordings as a feature for people who don't want to record themselves on camera. We're also adding text as a "type" of message you can send. One of the interesting things we've noticed is that recording yourself seems to encourage more intentionality in what is being said than a quick chat or SMS (maybe because you're more self-aware wh…

I think this intentionality comes from the person more than the tool; like, as obvious as it is to you that chat causes people to dump a stream of consciousness while audio forces people to be "intentional" and think about what they are saying, it is frankly just as obvious to me that when people are speaking they tend to "ramble" as they attempt to somehow construct a thought on the fly (and often end up repeating t…

Very fair point. Being recorded is an interesting added dynamic vs. talking live, but you still could very well be right. It is for sure idiosyncratic.

Re: Launch HN: PingPong (YC W21) – Video messaging for remote teams

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Post by ourcat »

I founded and built a company based on a threaded, asynchronous multimedia forum system about 12 years ago. It supported any type of content that was 'V.I.T.A.L' : Video, Images, Text, Audio and Links.

(I sadly had to resign from it, after getting royally screwed over by the 'investor relations guys' who were on the 'pump and dump' of our OTA stock, after we went public via a reverse merger.)

I have been thinking of building something like it again recently, using everything I've learned since - technologically and financially.

Best of luck! :)

Re: Launch HN: PingPong (YC W21) – Video messaging for remote teams

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Post by jeffwhitlock »

ourcat wrote: post #19

I founded and built a company based on a threaded, asynchronous multimedia forum system about 12 years ago. It supported any type of content that was 'V.I.T.A.L' : Video, Images, Text, Audio and Links. (I sadly had to resign from it, after getting royally screwed over by the 'investor relations guys' who were on the 'pump and dump' of our OTA stock, after we went public via a reverse merger.) I have been thinking of…

Dang, sounds like an unfortunate experience. Now is a good time to do it! Happy to compare notes.
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