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I was hoping it was about displaying artwork.
I was really hoping this was about how to make a patsy take a fall for an egregious crime I committed.
But that aside, the techniques that they discuss look like they could be useful for persuasive communication, including technical and product focused communication, so it is interesting from that perspective.
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Framing is a tool - it can be used for bad or good. You can use it to reframe an explanation in terms that your audience will understand more intuitively, or you can spin bad news to sound either unimportant or positive. For what it's worth, reframing your thoughts is an important practice in improving your mindset, and thus many aspects of mental health.
>Framing is a tool - it can be used for bad or good. Propaganda is a tool - it can be used for bad or good. The problem is that "bad" and "good" are subjective value judgements. Simultaneously, the mindset of manipulation is going to have certain predictable effects on communication and society, no matter what the manipulation is used for. If you haven't caught on, the website uses the techniques it promotes.
1) We live in a social world.
2) Your effectiveness is measured by other people.
3) Your ability to communicate can affect your perceived effectiveness.
4) Highly effective people are rewarded.
5) To be rewarded is 'good'.
Let me know where we disagree, and then we'll have a better understanding of each other.
Wow, I meant to write a semi-satirical guide to successful propaganda for a while now. Apparently, people professionally doing propaganda published one for real. https://www.frameworksinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/... "Celebrating 20 years of social science for social change." You can't make this stuff up. And I bet 90% of people here don't even understand why this slogan is fucked up. The notion that the pur…
Framing is a tool - it can be used for bad or good. You can use it to reframe an explanation in terms that your audience will understand more intuitively, or you can spin bad news to sound either unimportant or positive. For what it's worth, reframing your thoughts is an important practice in improving your mindset, and thus many aspects of mental health.
I'm confused by the angle this "institute" seems to have about manipulating social / political discourse. (In that its weird to be providing these communication frameworks at the same time as actively using them for a agenda, but maybe I'm interpreting this incorrectly) But that aside, the techniques that they discuss look like they could be useful for persuasive communication, including technical and product focused…
Dont forget that some people are excellent manipulators without having to read about it in a book, its like natural talent for them
Thats why we protect minors - they are so inexperienced, so an adult could easilly manipulate them into sex, crime, anything.
> Perhaps the most fundamental goal of applying the verbal patterns of Sleight of Mouth is to help people to shift their perspective 1) from a problem frame to an outcome frame, 2) from a failure frame to a feedback frame, and 3) from an impossibility frame to an ‘as if’ frame.
(An "as if" frame is where you imagine if the impossible outcome was possible and what that would be like.)
One of the main takeaways from this book was learning about Disney's creative process (although this wasn't discussed explicitly). There's three roles, all being important: the dreamer, the realist, and the critic.
The critic tends to operate from the "problem frame." Basically, they can be more effective by shifting to the "outcome frame." Instead of focusing on what you don't want, figure out what you do want instead. "Avoiding stress" changes to "becoming more relaxed and comfortable."
After identifying the positive intention behind the criticism, the book recommends changing it from a statement into a "how" question. "How can we...?"
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Framing is just perspective. Our conversation is a debate on how to frame framing. Trying to change someone's perspective isn't always propaganda, and of course you can change your own prospective through reframing and introspection.
There's a fine line between presenting your ideas in a clear and effective manner, and "framing" the presentation in a way that makes it more likely others will agree with you (a manipulative technique). Think of a good salesman: if the product's values sold itself, the salesman wouldn't really matter - but they do. Often people using these manipulative techniques don't even realize they are manipulating - they just…
An example of poor framing: "do you feel you have the right to tell private company whay to do"
Reframing the same question can expose serious logical flaws and assumptions, and every critical thinker worth his salt should be aware of it and able to examine an issue from different viewpoints
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I was really hoping this was about how to make a patsy take a fall for an egregious crime I committed.
I am sorely disappointed this didn't explain where to position this object I want to photograph in image space.
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Framing is just perspective. Our conversation is a debate on how to frame framing. Trying to change someone's perspective isn't always propaganda, and of course you can change your own prospective through reframing and introspection.
There's a fine line between presenting your ideas in a clear and effective manner, and "framing" the presentation in a way that makes it more likely others will agree with you (a manipulative technique). Think of a good salesman: if the product's values sold itself, the salesman wouldn't really matter - but they do. Often people using these manipulative techniques don't even realize they are manipulating - they just…
"Sleight of Mouth" is a great resource for anyone who wants to learn more about NLP techniques like framing. > Perhaps the most fundamental goal of applying the verbal patterns of Sleight of Mouth is to help people to shift their perspective 1) from a problem frame to an outcome frame, 2) from a failure frame to a feedback frame, and 3) from an impossibility frame to an ‘as if’ frame. (An "as if" frame is where you i…
> Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is a pseudoscientific approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy created by Richard Bandler and John Grinder in California, United States, in the 1970s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming