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I'm guessing (and hoping) this is a bug and not intentional, but this is pretty scary. My digital personal life is almost all within Apple's ecosystem, including most of the smart devices in my house. Getting locked out for any amount of time would be super frustrating.
Making entirely unlinked/unique Apple IDs is expensive because each one requires a working phone number to create.
This is really the only safe approach these days, given nonsense like this.
Because iCloud Backup is non-e2e (like most of iCloud) and thus permits Apple (and the FBI by extension without a warrant) to read whatever they want out of your phone's contents, I have to do manual corded backups periodically because Apple doesn't have their cryptographic shit together. :/
I have one old wiped phone that is signed in to my ~decade-old Apple ID for managing my Apple Card, which cannot be moved between Apple IDs (just like your purchases). I'll probably cancel the card soon and delete that account. I've already replaced all of the movies I foolishly bought years ago on iTunes with torrented copies.
I'm guessing (and hoping) this is a bug and not intentional, but this is pretty scary. My digital personal life is almost all within Apple's ecosystem, including most of the smart devices in my house. Getting locked out for any amount of time would be super frustrating.
This is not a bug, this is by design. There is no possible way this wasn't spec'd as a test scenario to force payment compliance. They know they have leverage that a bank wouldn't have so they are using it.
I remember stories about having an issue with an account on a Google property and losing all your access to all your Google accounts.
It's a prime reason to buy services from different companies.
And by extension all the services you sign in to using a (mandatory) sign in with Apple button.
I consider it worrying that a claim wholly lacking evidence is getting so much attention.
John Gruber ( and only him ) [1] suggest Epic was making things up when Apple would terminate Sign in with Apple on EPIC's App. While I dont fully side with EPIC on their case against Apple, on this issue alone it was clear the fault was on Apple [2].
And imagine you are in a dispute with Apple on this matter for longer than 30days without resolution, the time your iCloud would keep your backup before it is completely wipe out due to Account termination.
[1] https://daringfireball.net/linked/2020/09/29/epic-games-unre...
[2] https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/131179493779778355...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The presence of the button is mandatory, your use of it is not.
It’s not even mandatory unless the app offers other auth providers like Google and Facebook. If your app is based around old fashioned email and password sign-in you don’t need to include Sign In with Apple at all.