Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State • Hacker News Board

Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by swayvil » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:03 PM UTC

karmicthreat wrote: post #3

I definitely hate China's oppression of its minorities. I think we are seeing the true color of a nation that knows nobody will challenge them. When people try to color it by claiming "different cultural norms!" I just think, well if you just want a culture of evil, this is a good way to do so. Also I have a smaller hate for the scrollamated site, it's so distracting.

They're oppressing the minorities to create greater wealth and power for China's aristocracy (ultimately).

I know I'm stating the utterly obvious but it needs to be said. This is a natural side-effect of aristocrats doing what aristocrats do.

And yes, our world suffers from an infestation of aristocrats.

Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by op03 » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:05 PM UTC

karmicthreat wrote: post #3

I definitely hate China's oppression of its minorities. I think we are seeing the true color of a nation that knows nobody will challenge them. When people try to color it by claiming "different cultural norms!" I just think, well if you just want a culture of evil, this is a good way to do so. Also I have a smaller hate for the scrollamated site, it's so distracting.

More like Xi Jinping and the coterie have no opposition and have gone of the deep end.

Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by true_religion » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:07 PM UTC

mhh__ wrote: post #10

Daho0n wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No Chinese products? I believe vegan is possible but no Chinese products? No chance. Not unless you live without electronics. But good idea anyways. Maybe a filter by country so you can optimise American and Israeli products out too.

None is unrealistic but you can at very least minimise the amount of profit that actually stays in China. Progress is always incremental

I think a better idea would be to start a made in _____ site which lets customers choose to buy products made mostly within a certain country or set of countries. It can default to counties neighboring to the user, so as to promote locally made goods no matter what your locality is.

Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by karmicthreat » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:13 PM UTC

swayvil wrote: post #11

karmicthreat wrote: post #3

I definitely hate China's oppression of its minorities. I think we are seeing the true color of a nation that knows nobody will challenge them. When people try to color it by claiming "different cultural norms!" I just think, well if you just want a culture of evil, this is a good way to do so. Also I have a smaller hate for the scrollamated site, it's so distracting.

They're oppressing the minorities to create greater wealth and power for China's aristocracy (ultimately). I know I'm stating the utterly obvious but it needs to be said. This is a natural side-effect of aristocrats doing what aristocrats do. And yes, our world suffers from an infestation of aristocrats.

For a whole lot of Chinese, Han and others, China is a better place than it was 40 years ago. I think this gives the government there more power than it should really have over the attitudes of its people. Maybe as we get 2 or 3 more generations in the general attitude toward the government will shift away from justifying anything for the sake of Chinese unification.

Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by charlescearl » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:18 PM UTC

I have found the China Neican newsletter [1] to have insightful, contextualized critique of CCP as well as critique of the US+Australian critique.

[1] https://www.neican.org

Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by mhh__ » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:18 PM UTC

true_religion wrote: post #13

mhh__ wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None is unrealistic but you can at very least minimise the amount of profit that actually stays in China. Progress is always incremental

I think a better idea would be to start a made in _____ site which lets customers choose to buy products made mostly within a certain country or set of countries. It can default to counties neighboring to the user, so as to promote locally made goods no matter what your locality is.

Sure, every little helps.

Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by shp0ngle » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:21 PM UTC

mhh__ wrote: post #4

Given that this is a ycombinator site, has anyone thought about or started a startup (it's a really a product rather than a company, but still) that helps you optimize (say) Chinese products out of your life?

You will more easily eat completely kosher, halal or vegan than be without Chinese-made products.

It’s impossible.

Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by adampk » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:27 PM UTC

karmicthreat wrote: post #3

I definitely hate China's oppression of its minorities. I think we are seeing the true color of a nation that knows nobody will challenge them. When people try to color it by claiming "different cultural norms!" I just think, well if you just want a culture of evil, this is a good way to do so. Also I have a smaller hate for the scrollamated site, it's so distracting.

I guess I am in the minority but I appreciate the scrollamated site.

I am slow at picking up information and find visual aids super helpful. An image with all the information on it is really busy and doesn't get through to me very well. But if I can "layer on" information at my desired pace of scrolling, it is a lot easier for me to ingest information than maybe a lot of different images where I have to break and rebuild my mental model each time, or a single image where all the information appears and I need to parse it myself.

For a slow thinker, this type of "at your own pace" visual guides is pretty nice.

Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:29 PM UTC

karmicthreat wrote: post #3

I definitely hate China's oppression of its minorities. I think we are seeing the true color of a nation that knows nobody will challenge them. When people try to color it by claiming "different cultural norms!" I just think, well if you just want a culture of evil, this is a good way to do so. Also I have a smaller hate for the scrollamated site, it's so distracting.

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Re: Inside Xinjiang’s Prison State

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Post by threatofrain » Sun, Feb 28, 2021, 4:31 PM UTC

karmicthreat wrote: post #3

I definitely hate China's oppression of its minorities. I think we are seeing the true color of a nation that knows nobody will challenge them. When people try to color it by claiming "different cultural norms!" I just think, well if you just want a culture of evil, this is a good way to do so. Also I have a smaller hate for the scrollamated site, it's so distracting.

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