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Re: Customers want to know why Amazon removed Clarence Thomas documentary

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Post by dbuder »

cdolan wrote: post #4
unanswered wrote: post #2

It's obvious, isn't it? If you didn't vote for Biden, you ain't Black. It's fair to say Justice Thomas did not vote for Biden. It's perfectly consistent with this worldview to celebrate Black History Month by taking down a documentary about a conservative Black man in favor of lots of other documentaries about leftist white men, who are, after all, the chosen role models of the modern (leftist) Black man (according t…

Deleted because the top comment just keeps editing their message to the point where it’s substantively different than when i posted just a few moments ago.

You have got to be kidding me. Not everyone publicly states who they voted for, esp if they are a supreme court justice. There are some things that don't need a source to be stated, just read his wikipedia, you don't even need to connect the dots.

Re: Customers want to know why Amazon removed Clarence Thomas documentary

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Post by randallsquared »

anm89 wrote: post #8
unanswered wrote: post #2

It's obvious, isn't it? If you didn't vote for Biden, you ain't Black. It's fair to say Justice Thomas did not vote for Biden. It's perfectly consistent with this worldview to celebrate Black History Month by taking down a documentary about a conservative Black man in favor of lots of other documentaries about leftist white men, who are, after all, the chosen role models of the modern (leftist) Black man (according t…

I see why this is inflammatory but >'If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black' is an actual Joe Biden quote and is reasonable to bring up. It has bearings on exposing the relationship between the democratic party and it's perceived relationship with people of color and the idea that there is an effort to censor people who don't adhere to this narrative which is the topic…

"If you don't love the Eagles, then you ain't from Philly" could be meant as "If you don't love the Eagles, I will argue that you weren't born and raised in Philadelphia and shouldn't be allowed to claim you were". However, it's also possible to read it as "Virtually everyone I know who cares about sports and who lives in Philadelphia enthusiastically cheers the Eagles", and without the context of politics and the culture war, the first reading seems really weird.

So, consider that Biden might have just said a hyperbolic thing in the moment without intending to imply that 5-10% of a voting demographic should be canceled.

Re: Customers want to know why Amazon removed Clarence Thomas documentary

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Post by anm89 »

randallsquared wrote: post #13
anm89 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see why this is inflammatory but >'If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black' is an actual Joe Biden quote and is reasonable to bring up. It has bearings on exposing the relationship between the democratic party and it's perceived relationship with people of color and the idea that there is an effort to censor people who don't adhere to this narrative which is the topic…

"If you don't love the Eagles, then you ain't from Philly" could be meant as "If you don't love the Eagles, I will argue that you weren't born and raised in Philadelphia and shouldn't be allowed to claim you were". However, it's also possible to read it as "Virtually everyone I know who cares about sports and who lives in Philadelphia enthusiastically cheers the Eagles", and without the context of politics and the cu…

Yes you could ignore what he actually said and try to construct a narrative that doesn't sound bad. But, isn't that a lot more complicated than just listening to what he actually said?

To be more direct, myself and many other people aren't going to play that game. The only people that would are people who have a narrative in mind in advance and are going to find a way to justify it post hoc.

Re: Customers want to know why Amazon removed Clarence Thomas documentary

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Post by unanswered »

anm89 wrote: post #8
unanswered wrote: post #2

It's obvious, isn't it? If you didn't vote for Biden, you ain't Black. It's fair to say Justice Thomas did not vote for Biden. It's perfectly consistent with this worldview to celebrate Black History Month by taking down a documentary about a conservative Black man in favor of lots of other documentaries about leftist white men, who are, after all, the chosen role models of the modern (leftist) Black man (according t…

I see why this is inflammatory but >'If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black' is an actual Joe Biden quote and is reasonable to bring up. It has bearings on exposing the relationship between the democratic party and it's perceived relationship with people of color and the idea that there is an effort to censor people who don't adhere to this narrative which is the topic…

"Inflammatory" is just another synonym for "disagrees with prevailing sentiment". I won't stop posting what I believe to be the truth because people super-duper disagree with it, as opposed to just okay-disagreeing with it, like discussions on HN about what brand of socialism we need to instate after the violent revolution. (This is hyperbole.)

Re: Customers want to know why Amazon removed Clarence Thomas documentary

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Post by unanswered »

cdolan wrote: post #4
unanswered wrote: post #2

It's obvious, isn't it? If you didn't vote for Biden, you ain't Black. It's fair to say Justice Thomas did not vote for Biden. It's perfectly consistent with this worldview to celebrate Black History Month by taking down a documentary about a conservative Black man in favor of lots of other documentaries about leftist white men, who are, after all, the chosen role models of the modern (leftist) Black man (according t…

Deleted because the top comment just keeps editing their message to the point where it’s substantively different than when i posted just a few moments ago.

Unless I'm much mistaken comments on HN show whether they've been edited more than a few seconds after they're first posted. I believe I edited that comment to clarify something a few seconds after I posted it, in an effort to prevent people from taking my words out of context to incite rage and then blame me for that. But I'm sure whatever your comment was it was really well thought out in the short time you had available, and that it didn't do any of those things.

Re: Customers want to know why Amazon removed Clarence Thomas documentary

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Post by unanswered »

unanswered wrote: post #17
cdolan wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deleted because the top comment just keeps editing their message to the point where it’s substantively different than when i posted just a few moments ago.

Unless I'm much mistaken comments on HN show whether they've been edited more than a few seconds after they're first posted. I believe I edited that comment to clarify something a few seconds after I posted it, in an effort to prevent people from taking my words out of context to incite rage and then blame me for that. But I'm sure whatever your comment was it was really well thought out in the short time you had ava…

Hmm... actually, come to think of it, what HN does is prevent editing a comment more than a few seconds after it's made. So... I suppose the theory is that I'm conspiring with the mods or something?

Re: Customers want to know why Amazon removed Clarence Thomas documentary

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Post by edbob »

unanswered wrote: post #18
unanswered wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless I'm much mistaken comments on HN show whether they've been edited more than a few seconds after they're first posted. I believe I edited that comment to clarify something a few seconds after I posted it, in an effort to prevent people from taking my words out of context to incite rage and then blame me for that. But I'm sure whatever your comment was it was really well thought out in the short time you had ava…

Hmm... actually, come to think of it, what HN does is prevent editing a comment more than a few seconds after it's made. So... I suppose the theory is that I'm conspiring with the mods or something?

You're mistaken. I've edited comments a significant time after they were replied to. See the edit note on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26187343

Re: Customers want to know why Amazon removed Clarence Thomas documentary

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Post by randallsquared »

anm89 wrote: post #15
randallsquared wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If you don't love the Eagles, then you ain't from Philly" could be meant as "If you don't love the Eagles, I will argue that you weren't born and raised in Philadelphia and shouldn't be allowed to claim you were". However, it's also possible to read it as "Virtually everyone I know who cares about sports and who lives in Philadelphia enthusiastically cheers the Eagles", and without the context of politics and the cu…

Yes you could ignore what he actually said and try to construct a narrative that doesn't sound bad. But, isn't that a lot more complicated than just listening to what he actually said? To be more direct, myself and many other people aren't going to play that game. The only people that would are people who have a narrative in mind in advance and are going to find a way to justify it post hoc.

It is more complicated, but that's how communication works; most people do not mean anything close to the literal wording they use -- "Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded".

If you refuse to "play that game", then you get to be offended a lot more often, but you will also have to draw a distinction between how you understand communication from in-group and out-group, which seems to me to be even more complicated. :)

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