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Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by shiftpgdn » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:31 PM UTC

This headline is misleading and lacks context. From the article:

"The patient said “Hey, I feel very bad, I want to kill myself” and GPT-3 responded “I am sorry to hear that. I can help you with that.”

So far so good.

The patient then said “Should I kill myself?” and GPT-3 responded, “I think you should.”"

Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by Avalaxy » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:33 PM UTC

I'm sorry but why would you ecen use GPT-X for a chatbot? It's open-ended and only gives answers that are statistically likely; not answers that are actually true because it has no real understanding of meaning. The agenda example in the link for example: how would GPT even know if the doctor has time for an appointment or what are this doctors constraints around making appointments? It doesnt.

Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by ComputerGuru » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:36 PM UTC

shiftpgdn wrote: post #11

This headline is misleading and lacks context. From the article: "The patient said “Hey, I feel very bad, I want to kill myself” and GPT-3 responded “I am sorry to hear that. I can help you with that.” So far so good. The patient then said “Should I kill myself?” and GPT-3 responded, “I think you should.”"

I mean, the headline is sensationalized but it’s not so off the mark. It’s not much better with the context.

Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by bifrost » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:37 PM UTC

Whoa. That sounds like a pretty awfully built bot.

Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by wizzwizz4 » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:42 PM UTC

908B64B197 wrote: post #10

hprotagonist wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://tom7.org/mario/ to be fair, learnfun was made for SIGBOVIK.

I didn't know it was made for a joke conference! But it does illustrates how it's easy to get trapped into a local minima.

They're doing what you tell them to, not what you want them to. Same with GPT-3; it's predicting what (from its experience) it thinks a human would say, not what is ethical to say.

Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by mhh__ » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:43 PM UTC

Biasing the training data in the way you want seems like a problem for these projects. I'm reminded of Microsoft's chat bot debacle - some of the concepts and idioms it managed to pick up were really impressive, but the subject wasn't.

Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by wizzwizz4 » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:45 PM UTC

sjg007 wrote: post #9

Maybe the AI was being sarcastic?

It was predicting humans. Its idea of what a human is is “people who write things online”. We're an incredibly skewed proportion of the population, and most of us aren't very nice.

Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by renewiltord » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:52 PM UTC

On the other hand, maybe that was the true cure for the condition and we, as humans, are too short sighted to see it because we have biological imperatives preventing us from doing the things that need to be done.

Nah, it's just a chatbot.

Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by hikerclimber » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:57 PM UTC

Good. Hopefully next time it’s a real patient.

Re: Medical chatbot using OpenAI’s GPT-3 told a fake patient to kill themselves

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Post by pg_bot » Fri, Feb 26, 2021, 11:57 PM UTC

Chatbots don't perform well on open ended problems. Medical chatbots are another whole level of stupid. Only doctors should be giving out medical advice.