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Re: Coca Cola Confirms Training Employees ‘Try to Be Less White’

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Post by sep_field » Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 9:08 AM UTC

fork1 wrote: post #10

sep_field wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is that there is a power imbalance: since, in the United States we are living in a white supremacist society, ethnic solidarity among whites exacerbates the power imbalance, whereas ethnic solidarity among non-whites helps correct the power imbalance. Eventually we could get to a world where no ethnic solidarity exists at any level but until power imbalances are corrected, not speaking and acting against wh…

Two wrongs don't make a right. The issue is when you reduce people to nothing but their "color".

It's not about reducing people to nothing but their skin color, that's a strawman argument. It's about recognizing that because the way society is structured, people have likely had a markedly different experience of life based on their skin color, and in a systematic way. It's about recognizing that we need a systematic approach to undo the accumulation of 400 years of these systematized differences. To ignore skin color, or as some people say, "I don't see color" is to refuse to confront the structural racism that got us where we are.

Re: Coca Cola Confirms Training Employees ‘Try to Be Less White’

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Post by throwawayyy1986 » Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 1:21 PM UTC

sep_field wrote: post #8

throwawayyy1986 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> since we are living in a white supremacist society Speak for yourself and be my guest to confess whatever racist stuff you think you engage in regularly.

I edited my comment to clarify that the white supremacist society is the status quo in the United States. It also exists in some other countries. Certain countries have other supremacy issues; I've heard that in China, Han supremacy is a huge problem, but I can't speak to that as I haven't been there. If you live in the US, and you don't see white supremacy, I encourage you to pay attention to what non-white people h…

> If you live in the US, and you don't see white supremacy, I encourage you to pay attention to what non-white people have to say about their experiences.

That's like saying: "Q is everywhere and if you don't think so, I encourage you to listen to some Q supporters."

I encourage you to maybe focus on your worldview that monomaniacally reduces the entire world to an arena of skin color - never qualifying things, unable to contextualize.

Frankly, anti-racism is fundamentalism.

We traditionally called people that think in those terms: racists.

Re: Coca Cola Confirms Training Employees ‘Try to Be Less White’

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Post by MikeUt » Wed, Feb 24, 2021, 8:57 PM UTC

sep_field wrote: post #6

MikeUt wrote: post #4

"To be less white is to: [..] break with white solidarity" All other forms of ethnic solidarity are encouraged , so how viable is it for whites to act as enlightened aracial individualists?

The issue is that there is a power imbalance: since, in the United States we are living in a white supremacist society, ethnic solidarity among whites exacerbates the power imbalance, whereas ethnic solidarity among non-whites helps correct the power imbalance. Eventually we could get to a world where no ethnic solidarity exists at any level but until power imbalances are corrected, not speaking and acting against wh…

> in the United States we are living in a white supremacist society

Is this the kind of company training you would expect in a white supremacist society? Would a white supremacist society have an immigration policy that will soon make whites a minority?