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Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by axiosgunnar »

paulie_a wrote: post #3
axiosgunnar wrote: post #2

It‘s a pretty strong case for Len to be Satoshi, admittedly. And it would explain the mysterious silence from Satoshi Nakamoto - he's dead. Of course one could argue that Satoshi is alive and choses to be silent on purpose, since being worth tens of billions of dollars might come with some strings attached, ie kidnappings, black mail, extortions etc. But one would have to have a rather strong personality to not give…

I've never bought the argument about kidnappings etc, with billions of dollars you can hire people with lots of guns

I think the problem is that if you are born into a family of billionaires, it comes with connections and you probably just kinda had people with guns since generations so you just keep it up

But when you suddenly become a billionaire, what do you do? Ring up some private security company? You would need to trust them not to screw you over. It's kinda boils down to you not being able to trust anyone, not even governments that might consider you a criminal.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by sneak »

> But with Craig Wright fraudulently claiming credit and invoking a copyright claim to take down the Bitcoin whitepaper, we’re forced to revisit the topic and recenter the discussion around the Cypherpunks who actually built Bitcoin.

No, we're not. We can dismiss the fraudulent claims of Craig Wright without being "forced" to do anything else.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by sneak »

vga805 wrote: post #4
axiosgunnar wrote: post #2

It‘s a pretty strong case for Len to be Satoshi, admittedly. And it would explain the mysterious silence from Satoshi Nakamoto - he's dead. Of course one could argue that Satoshi is alive and choses to be silent on purpose, since being worth tens of billions of dollars might come with some strings attached, ie kidnappings, black mail, extortions etc. But one would have to have a rather strong personality to not give…

It's worth mentioning that those 10s of billions have never been touched. This is a very strong case for Len to be Satoshi.

No, it's not.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by axiosgunnar »

VectorLock wrote: post #10

Having known Len I'd be surprised if he was Satoshi, but its possible as some have speculated that Satoshi was a collaboration from a number of people then I could definitely see him being a part/organizer of it.

Why would it surprise you if he was Satoshi?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by vga805 »

VectorLock wrote: post #10

Having known Len I'd be surprised if he was Satoshi, but its possible as some have speculated that Satoshi was a collaboration from a number of people then I could definitely see him being a part/organizer of it.

Why would you be surprised if he was Satoshi, but seemingly not so surprised if he organized a collective Satoshi?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by sneak »

axiosgunnar wrote: post #2

It‘s a pretty strong case for Len to be Satoshi, admittedly. And it would explain the mysterious silence from Satoshi Nakamoto - he's dead. Of course one could argue that Satoshi is alive and choses to be silent on purpose, since being worth tens of billions of dollars might come with some strings attached, ie kidnappings, black mail, extortions etc. But one would have to have a rather strong personality to not give…

Satoshi's silence period began at the same time that Gavin Andressen went to the CIA (at the CIA's invitation) to present about Bitcoin. It is widely assumed that it was caused by Andressen's decision to accept the invite.

Just because Satoshi went silent for a while doesn't mean that he/they are dead.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by perseusmandate »

sneak wrote: post #12

> But with Craig Wright fraudulently claiming credit and invoking a copyright claim to take down the Bitcoin whitepaper, we’re forced to revisit the topic and recenter the discussion around the Cypherpunks who actually built Bitcoin. No, we're not. We can dismiss the fraudulent claims of Craig Wright without being "forced" to do anything else.

If that's the case why has Craig continued to gain prominence and have more and more sway over BTC? Bitcion SV is worth $4B now. He's been able to monopolize the mindshare on Satoshi and misdirect the narrative.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by WalterBright »

My money (er, bitcoin) is on Hal Finney. I knew Hal from occupying the dorm room next to mine at Caltech. Being Satoshi is just the kind of elaborate prank Hal would have loved. Besides, I've never met anyone as smart as Hal, and I've met a lot of smart people.

In his last interview (when he could no longer speak) he was asked if he was Satoshi, and he just grinned.

As for where the missing bitcoins are, my bitcoin is placed on the wallet just being thrown out with an old computer, discarded on a floppy disk, etc.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by diego »

Meekro wrote: post #8
axiosgunnar wrote: post #2

It‘s a pretty strong case for Len to be Satoshi, admittedly. And it would explain the mysterious silence from Satoshi Nakamoto - he's dead. Of course one could argue that Satoshi is alive and choses to be silent on purpose, since being worth tens of billions of dollars might come with some strings attached, ie kidnappings, black mail, extortions etc. But one would have to have a rather strong personality to not give…

Len is a good candidate, but here's one problem: Satoshi spoke up in 2014 on a long-dormant account[1] to say "I am not Dorian Nakamoto." This was a response to a Newsweek article that claimed to have found his identity. So maybe someone hacked that account-- but then, why didn't we get any more Satoshi activity? Or maybe Len (who took his own life in 2011) isn't Satoshi after all! [1] http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/f…

Yes, 2014 in fact is when Hal Finney died, a few months after that post. He is perhaps the strongest candidate for Satoshi, and if so we'll probably never know.
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