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Covid vaccination linked to 'substantial reduction' in hospital admissions

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Re: Covid vaccination linked to 'substantial reduction' in hospital admissions

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Post by kop316 »

"By the fourth week after receiving the initial dose, the Pfizer and Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines were shown to reduce the risk of hospitalisation from Covid-19 by up to 85 per cent and 94 per cent, respectively.

Among those aged 80 years and over - one of the highest risk groups - vaccination was associated with an 81 per cent reduction in hospitalisation risk in the fourth week, when the results for both vaccines were combined."

I wanted to highlight this part for folks reading. My brothers Mother in Law is now hospitalized due to COVID, and there is a high likelyhood that she will not survive COVID due to lung scarring. She got her first COVID vaccination about a week before she got COVID.

You are not out of the woods just because you got your first dose COVID vaccine! It will take time for it to take affect.

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Post by matthewmacleod »

NovaJehovah wrote: post #10
tus89 wrote: post #6

More interesting to know does it lead to a significant drop in transmission?

Why is that more interesting? Reducing severity is just as important as reducing transmission, if not more important. If we could sufficiently reduce (or eliminate) severe cases and deaths, it wouldn't matter how contagious it was. Common colds are highly transmissible, but no one worries about them much since they very rarely cause severe illness.

Reducing severity is just as important as reducing transmission.

I know what you're driving at and it's all pretty interesting - but counterintuitively I think it's way more effective overall to reduce transmission than it is to reduce severity.

If you make the disease half as deadly, then pretty simply half as many people die. But if you make the disease half as transmissible, then the compound impact means that far fewer than half as many people die.

Re: Covid vaccination linked to 'substantial reduction' in hospital admissions

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Post by NovaJehovah »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #13
NovaJehovah wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that more interesting? Reducing severity is just as important as reducing transmission, if not more important. If we could sufficiently reduce (or eliminate) severe cases and deaths, it wouldn't matter how contagious it was. Common colds are highly transmissible, but no one worries about them much since they very rarely cause severe illness.

Reducing severity is just as important as reducing transmission. I know what you're driving at and it's all pretty interesting - but counterintuitively I think it's way more effective overall to reduce transmission than it is to reduce severity. If you make the disease half as deadly, then pretty simply half as many people die. But if you make the disease half as transmissible, then the compound impact means that far…

True. But if you make the disease not deadly at all, then no one dies, regardless of how transmissible it is.

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Post by stavros »

kop316 wrote: post #11

"By the fourth week after receiving the initial dose, the Pfizer and Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines were shown to reduce the risk of hospitalisation from Covid-19 by up to 85 per cent and 94 per cent, respectively. Among those aged 80 years and over - one of the highest risk groups - vaccination was associated with an 81 per cent reduction in hospitalisation risk in the fourth week, when the results for both vaccines we…

The AZ vaccine is more effective than the BioNTech one? That's extremely interesting.

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Post by jimbokun »

NovaJehovah wrote: post #10
tus89 wrote: post #6

More interesting to know does it lead to a significant drop in transmission?

Why is that more interesting? Reducing severity is just as important as reducing transmission, if not more important. If we could sufficiently reduce (or eliminate) severe cases and deaths, it wouldn't matter how contagious it was. Common colds are highly transmissible, but no one worries about them much since they very rarely cause severe illness.

It's very important until universal vaccination is achieved.

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Post by carbocation »

tus89 wrote: post #6

More interesting to know does it lead to a significant drop in transmission?

I don't mean to imply that this is your intention at all, but it's a false choice. Both questions are interesting; no need to set them up as if they were in tension with one another.

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Post by ageitgey »

kop316 wrote: post #11

"By the fourth week after receiving the initial dose, the Pfizer and Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines were shown to reduce the risk of hospitalisation from Covid-19 by up to 85 per cent and 94 per cent, respectively. Among those aged 80 years and over - one of the highest risk groups - vaccination was associated with an 81 per cent reduction in hospitalisation risk in the fourth week, when the results for both vaccines we…

I sorry to hear about your brother's Mother-in-Law.

I just wanted to concur for anyone who is not yet aware: all the data so far (from multiple studies) shows that there is zero or near zero protection for the first two weeks after the first dose. It's not until the third/fourth weeks after the dose that you start to see substantial protection, with higher protection the fourth week.

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Post by JCM9 »

Data is very encouraging.

Presently this battle is essentially a race between the current vaccines (which data indicates are very effective against current strains) and eventual variants that will make the current vaccines less effective (or in the worst case ineffective).

The mutations aren’t really a question of if just when. Vaccine data on some new strains is concerning and potentially an early warning of things to come.

If we can get shots in everyone’s arms and maintain masks etc before any vaccine-resistant strains can develop then we stand a good chance of getting back to normalcy. If the virus mutates faster or people let their guard down too soon (including vaccinated individuals) then we could have a big setback. It’s important that even vaccinated people follow protocols for now since if a vaccine-resistant variant does get out there we need to make sure it doesn’t spread.

Get vaccinated (when it’s your turn) and wear those masks!

Re: Covid vaccination linked to 'substantial reduction' in hospital admissions

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Post by Balero »

Zariel wrote: post #9
kuu wrote: post #3

If I'm not wrong, UK is only giving the first dose for now. I feel glad and relieve that with only one dose it is working. There seems to be a light at the end of this tunnel :)

Check the data yourself, https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations Most people I know who have a vaccine have had 2 doses

OP is correct, the link you've posted shows that around 600,000 have had 2 doses, and over 15 million have had 1.

The UK is pushing to get all 'at risk' people one dose (around 49% of people getting the vaccine) as a priority, with the second dose following within 12 weeks.

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