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Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

windexh8er wrote: post #6
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #2

Doesn't say a lot. It's mostly speculation, the chip is listed here [1]. Notable info: Still at 5nm; double the GPU cores. Reports up to 3 displays, so it's safe to assume 2+1 external/internal. 8 High perf cores and 4 little perf cores. PCIE gen 4, no idea about number of lanes. [1] https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-apple_m1x-1898

The other thing is RAM. Apple still has delusions of gimping it's buyers into 16/32GB for "Pro" level machines. I'd probably buy a 16" MBP with this chip if I could get it with socketed 64/128GB. But Apple's going to solder it to the board and charge a premium even if they did.

I'd add that they also appear to lack EEC support.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Post by martinald »

windexh8er wrote: post #6
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #2

Doesn't say a lot. It's mostly speculation, the chip is listed here [1]. Notable info: Still at 5nm; double the GPU cores. Reports up to 3 displays, so it's safe to assume 2+1 external/internal. 8 High perf cores and 4 little perf cores. PCIE gen 4, no idea about number of lanes. [1] https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-apple_m1x-1898

The other thing is RAM. Apple still has delusions of gimping it's buyers into 16/32GB for "Pro" level machines. I'd probably buy a 16" MBP with this chip if I could get it with socketed 64/128GB. But Apple's going to solder it to the board and charge a premium even if they did.

Yeah it's really annoying that 8/256 is the base still. It's been like that for years - I think that's been the same since around 2016.

Would be much better if the base model was 16/512, but that's $500 of nearly pure profit apple would lose.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Post by alberth »

Release Date?

Apple can take a few different paths to this “M1X” release. They can

A. Release in Spring. Use the current cpu & node generation tech, and add cores.

B. Release in Fall. Use the now old (2020) cpu & old node, and add cores.

C. Release in Fall. Use the now new (2021) cpu, new node generation - and add cores.

Will be curious to see which path they take.

I’d bet Option B. This would be similar to what’s currently going on with the iPad Pro vs iPad Air

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Post by toyg »

imtringued wrote: post #14

Intel should be scared of its own failures. Apple is merely a competitor that didn't fall asleep.

Harsh. Maybe more like “a competitor who made enough money elsewhere to get into the CPU fight”. Barriers to entry in that market are gargantuan, only a very selected few companies on the planet can afford to make an enemy out of Intel.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Post by rbanffy »

akmarinov wrote: post #9
windexh8er wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other thing is RAM. Apple still has delusions of gimping it's buyers into 16/32GB for "Pro" level machines. I'd probably buy a 16" MBP with this chip if I could get it with socketed 64/128GB. But Apple's going to solder it to the board and charge a premium even if they did.

Yeah, I'm calling it now - no chance of 128GB in a Macbook Pro. 64GB even is doubtful.

It'd be fun if they got 32GB parts with double the memory bandwidth (which could make sense with the doubled Firestorm and GPU cores).

Do we have perf counters that show how memory starved is M1 under pressure?

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Post by pdpi »

akmarinov wrote: post #9
windexh8er wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other thing is RAM. Apple still has delusions of gimping it's buyers into 16/32GB for "Pro" level machines. I'd probably buy a 16" MBP with this chip if I could get it with socketed 64/128GB. But Apple's going to solder it to the board and charge a premium even if they did.

Yeah, I'm calling it now - no chance of 128GB in a Macbook Pro. 64GB even is doubtful.

64GB is available on the current-gen 64GB, so not offering it would be a step backwards.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Post by akmarinov »

pdpi wrote: post #18
akmarinov wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I'm calling it now - no chance of 128GB in a Macbook Pro. 64GB even is doubtful.

64GB is available on the current-gen 64GB, so not offering it would be a step backwards.

64GB was available on the previous Mac Mini, but they took a step backwards and capped the new one at 16GB, no reason they won't do the same with the MBP.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Post by rbanffy »

toyg wrote: post #16
imtringued wrote: post #14

Intel should be scared of its own failures. Apple is merely a competitor that didn't fall asleep.

Harsh. Maybe more like “a competitor who made enough money elsewhere to get into the CPU fight”. Barriers to entry in that market are gargantuan, only a very selected few companies on the planet can afford to make an enemy out of Intel.

Apple has been on the CPU fight for years now - It's just that Intel, like IBM before them, couldn't provide a CPU with the performance/watt they wanted for their macOS lineup.

The developer preview Minis they sold with an iPad Pro CPU were already well past midrange Intel desktop chips.

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