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Bitcoin's market cap crosses $1T milestone for the first time

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Re: Bitcoin's market cap crosses $1T milestone for the first time

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Think more interesting number would be total paid-in capital. That would be a better metric to gauge the baseline value. My guess is it’s closer to $10-20B.

Exactly. Spot price and "market cap" are meaningless for something with purely speculative value.

The relevant figure is total paid-in, minus total withdrawn, to be more precise.

And probably we can't know, given that entities like Tether refuse to show their books.

Re: Bitcoin's market cap crosses $1T milestone for the first time

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Bitcoin is one of the most successful open source technologies of all time and the best decentralized network ever created, surpassing BitTorrent. This is a stunning achievement of pure computer science and economic game theory that enables strangers to act only in their self interest to secure and grow the network. No matter what you think of bitcoin, you must admit this has been successful beyond anyone’s wildest e…

It’s been successful in obtaining usage, but I am still confused how it accomplished this beyond a bunch of people asking for it. What problems does Bitcoin solve for these traditional finance institutions that could give us a better barometer of its success?

Re: Bitcoin's market cap crosses $1T milestone for the first time

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Think more interesting number would be total paid-in capital. That would be a better metric to gauge the baseline value. My guess is it’s closer to $10-20B.

Exactly. Spot price and "market cap" are meaningless for something with purely speculative value. The relevant figure is total paid-in, minus total withdrawn, to be more precise. And probably we can't know, given that entities like Tether refuse to show their books.

i only use it to buy weed.

Re: Bitcoin's market cap crosses $1T milestone for the first time

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That’s about 0.2% of global wealth allocation. I wonder when the people who normally recommend 30% of your portfolio in bonds will recommend bitcoin as the cash equivalent. That would leave a 150x potential from here.

Cash is held for it's stability. bitcoin is the polar opposite of stability right now.

I guess you lived mostly in US and/or Western Europe.

Ask people from former USSR or many countries in Africa about cash stability.

Re: Bitcoin's market cap crosses $1T milestone for the first time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see anything successful about it: 1) Absurd levels of electricity consumed 2) Majority of BTC is not used as an asset,or even as currency,but purely as a tool for speculation 3) the surrounding ecosystem is worse than FX world, which is already as bad as it gets 4) No real anonymity either: any meaningful amount needs to be exchanged to Fiat sooner or later. 5) Adoption is still very very low and won't change…

"it's harmful" and."I don't like it" doesn't make it unsucessful. Cigarettes are wildly successful. Thousands of people, from uninteresting individuals to billionaires and banks, are spending their resources to engage with it.

Define success. Are cigarettes successful for their manufacturers? Yes, absolutely,they are swimming in money. Is it a success to other stakeholders? No, it's not. Bitcoin is a huge success to the speculators riding the wave or early adopters who held it long enough. If smaller groups benefit from it, that doesn't necessarily mean it is universally successful.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"it's harmful" and."I don't like it" doesn't make it unsucessful. Cigarettes are wildly successful. Thousands of people, from uninteresting individuals to billionaires and banks, are spending their resources to engage with it.

Define success. Are cigarettes successful for their manufacturers? Yes, absolutely,they are swimming in money. Is it a success to other stakeholders? No, it's not. Bitcoin is a huge success to the speculators riding the wave or early adopters who held it long enough. If smaller groups benefit from it, that doesn't necessarily mean it is universally successful.

This is like arguing the iPhone was not a "success" because walled garden appstores are bad, or because app addiction is bad. Either of those may be true, but the iPhone was still a sucess.

Bitcoin was a daring experiment in game theory, open-source protocol, and human incentives, and is a success by any common-sense measures:

- Adoption of the protocol

- Money devoted to protol

- Human attention given to the project

- Number of computers running it's code

Re: Bitcoin's market cap crosses $1T milestone for the first time

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Whenever a BTC article makes it on HN, I see a flood of negative comments on how it's a bubble, just for speculation, etc. Can someone provide a solid bull case for BTC?

How about no bull case is not a bear case because it doesn't fit any prior bear bull dichotomy. Choose your own adventure. Some people choose bitcoin. Simple.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"it's harmful" and."I don't like it" doesn't make it unsucessful. Cigarettes are wildly successful. Thousands of people, from uninteresting individuals to billionaires and banks, are spending their resources to engage with it.

Define success. Are cigarettes successful for their manufacturers? Yes, absolutely,they are swimming in money. Is it a success to other stakeholders? No, it's not. Bitcoin is a huge success to the speculators riding the wave or early adopters who held it long enough. If smaller groups benefit from it, that doesn't necessarily mean it is universally successful.

I don't see anything successful about this comment.

Re: Bitcoin's market cap crosses $1T milestone for the first time

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Bitcoin working properly = tool to lock in your value with a limited and deflationary currency. Each individual is incentivized to do this (as early as possible). Society as a whole is not, because it will create inefficiencies. Governments are not, because it takes away their economic levers.

Idk where this will go, but I will ride the bubble/pyramid.

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