Yes, and "influencer" is code for psychological manipulator.
It's not much of a code though is it? I mean, it's as subtle as "executioner".
I don't know, people, especially kids on YouTube, seem to be proud of the label these days.
“User Engagement” Is Code for “Addiction”
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#12Can't remember who this quote came from but it went something like this: "The only two things that call their clients 'users' is drugs and software."
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#13I work in a small company that helps news sites with engagement. Our aim is for our clients to be a place where the community can find as much info as possible for their daily life. Trying to offer readers all the info in the most easily digestible way.
Everytime we get a new customer we have to discuss to explain to them that the real value is in providing the info people need as fast and simple as possible. Unfortunately we have to fight against some major forces, such as google ranking sites with longer content just because of that and not metrics related to value.
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#14Anything that provides a 'hit' stands a chance of being addictive. Including cheeseburgers and fun video games. >Most alarming is the “internet points”. On Reddit, this is called Karma. On Twitter, it’s likes and retweets. Ostensibly, this simple numeric score displays the community’s overall attitude toward a given piece of content. On its face, this appears to be a radically democratic concept; Everyone can vote! T…
Reddit also has purchased up/downvotes (through click-farms/bots), opaque moderation, and the real-time public display of these promote mobs and groupthink even if it were actually organic. I don't think for a second their algorithms do a good enough job of mitigating these clickfarms.
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#15Yes, and "influencer" is code for psychological manipulator.
It is no coincidence that PR is a continuation of propaganda for another field.
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#16Anything that provides a 'hit' stands a chance of being addictive. Including cheeseburgers and fun video games. >Most alarming is the “internet points”. On Reddit, this is called Karma. On Twitter, it’s likes and retweets. Ostensibly, this simple numeric score displays the community’s overall attitude toward a given piece of content. On its face, this appears to be a radically democratic concept; Everyone can vote! T…
Reddit also has purchased up/downvotes (through click-farms/bots), opaque moderation, and the real-time public display of these promote mobs and groupthink even if it were actually organic. I don't think for a second their algorithms do a good enough job of mitigating these clickfarms.
There is an arms race between reddit admins and spammers in general -- who will ruin any platform with eyeballs on it.
This article does not address that all -- vote fuzzification apparently only serves "brigading" -- thast not what it's for. It's for spammers so they can't judge the effectivness of their bots.
The author misses the wood from the trees. I'm not seeing valid criticisms either which means he didnt' even Google to see what others said of reddit, e.g. poor moderation tools for large subs.
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#17Often something made in the name of user engagement makes me less addicted instead Say we have something that shows all expanded comments immediately: keeps me on that site Then they do an "engaging" redesign where only 10% of the comments actually show and requires lots of clicking to expand them, and lots of unrelated animated images show below: makes me want to close that tab and do something else
What you seem to be saying here is, "Imagine a thing that doesn't work. It doesn't work."
That's... not an argument?
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#18I always thought it was pretty obvious when YouTube rolled out screen time reminders.
It had nothing to do with anything but minimizing liability in case the general public ever catches on to what they are doing to kids mental health.
What’s hilarious is they probably have some “data retention policy” and will get away with it.
I guess it’s why SV engineers want to care about social issues so much. When you’re up in your $300k+ a year ivory tower built on something you know is dirty, you are exactly the type of person to be angry and project frustration.
I saw on Reddit a screenshot of AOC dogging on old people in Congress for not understanding digital. She listed a bunch of modern day issues and this wasn’t one of them. If even she doesn’t know, we really are screwed.
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#19Yes, and "influencer" is code for psychological manipulator.
It’s always meant, “I’m paid to post ads”. Whether that’s psychological manipulation is up to you.
(Yes, ads are designed to get you to interact with them, but on their own, I wouldn’t go as far as saying, “psychological manipulation”. I’ll admit the industry has tended in that direction, however. Your view may differ)
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#20Anything that provides a 'hit' stands a chance of being addictive. Including cheeseburgers and fun video games. >Most alarming is the “internet points”. On Reddit, this is called Karma. On Twitter, it’s likes and retweets. Ostensibly, this simple numeric score displays the community’s overall attitude toward a given piece of content. On its face, this appears to be a radically democratic concept; Everyone can vote! T…
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