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I exploited existing YouTube videos with a fake Patreon profile

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Re: I exploited existing YouTube videos with a fake Patreon profile

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That’s because it’s fraud.

Nah. It's not fraud if they don't get any benefit from it. Since they refunded the single, solitary person who pledged $3/month, then shut it all down, it's all good from the fraud angle.

It's identity theft.

Re: I exploited existing YouTube videos with a fake Patreon profile

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please submit this to HITB white papers - https://twitter.com/HITBMedia/status/1359324451976843267

ps: you should consider automating the process. a bot that: 1. scraps all pateron links 2. check if they are dead to claim them 3. of a famous channel 4. profit $$$

Can he automate his prison time too?

Re: I exploited existing YouTube videos with a fake Patreon profile

#16

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That’s because it’s fraud.

Nah. It's not fraud if they don't get any benefit from it. Since they refunded the single, solitary person who pledged $3/month, then shut it all down, it's all good from the fraud angle.

Yeah and if I steal 100 bucks from you then give it back is that fine too? Honestly why do you write something that a child could read and instantly know it's nonsense?

Re: I exploited existing YouTube videos with a fake Patreon profile

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Interesting! Lot’s of more active scams like this happening in merchandising. I started doing merch for YouTubers back in maybe 2007 and in the last 3-4 years the scams have really picked up.

For some time the most well known youtubers would receive spam replies on all of their tweets with links to counterfeit merch sites.

If you search for the the top handful of YT creator names on Amazon or eBay you’ll find loads of bootleg merch (sometimes with hundreds of reviews!)

Re: I exploited existing YouTube videos with a fake Patreon profile

#18

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That’s because it’s fraud.

Nah. It's not fraud if they don't get any benefit from it. Since they refunded the single, solitary person who pledged $3/month, then shut it all down, it's all good from the fraud angle.

A dead comment asked if stealing 100 dollars if fine if you give it back.

So I'll chip in that for basic theft, one of the core elements is intent to permanently deprive the original owner. So if someone steals money, changes their mind, and then returns it, that's still theft. And taking money to spend, with a promise of returning money later, still counts as theft. But if the intent all along was to return it the next day, stored safely the entire time, that's not theft.

Obviously intent is hard to prove, so don't try to pull that off without a lot of evidence and/or a very understanding target.

Re: I exploited existing YouTube videos with a fake Patreon profile

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s because it’s fraud.

Nah. It's not fraud if they don't get any benefit from it. Since they refunded the single, solitary person who pledged $3/month, then shut it all down, it's all good from the fraud angle.

I am not a lawyer, but I doubt refunding your fraud victim after the fact gets you off the hook for fraud. If the victim or the police wanted to pursue that.

Re: I exploited existing YouTube videos with a fake Patreon profile

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah. It's not fraud if they don't get any benefit from it. Since they refunded the single, solitary person who pledged $3/month, then shut it all down, it's all good from the fraud angle.

A dead comment asked if stealing 100 dollars if fine if you give it back. So I'll chip in that for basic theft, one of the core elements is intent to permanently deprive the original owner. So if someone steals money, changes their mind, and then returns it, that's still theft. And taking money to spend, with a promise of returning money later, still counts as theft. But if the intent all along was to return it the n…

How was this fraud? He simply created a Patreon account. Yes, it happened to be used by someone else previously, but how is that his fault?
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