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Multiple Beverly Hills PD officers now weaponizing copyright against streaming

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Re: Multiple Beverly Hills PD officers now weaponizing copyright against streaming

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Post by heraclius »

acd wrote: post #5
ceejayoz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to me that the discussion appears focused on copyright issues, rather than what seems like a potential First Amendment violation by the police.

But people should have the right to work peace. It should also be a basic human right not to be constantly monitored.

One has the right to any other job. Compare soldiers: generally one probably ought to have the right to unionise, to sick leave, to certain health and safety standards and so on—there are substantial derogations for particular jobs though based on their nature, and the nature of exercising the coercive authority of the state is such that it seems reasonable to demand all sorts of monitoring (when on the job).

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Post by mtnGoat »

acd wrote: post #5
ceejayoz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to me that the discussion appears focused on copyright issues, rather than what seems like a potential First Amendment violation by the police.

But people should have the right to work peace. It should also be a basic human right not to be constantly monitored.

The state constantly monitors the citizens, through actions of their own and contracts with third parties. Police deserve no privacy if they don’t give it.

My ¢2.

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Post by salawat »

The thing that kills me is this just goes to prove beyomd a shadow of a doubt, that punishment for breaking law is more a function of who you are, and your usefulness to those with the power to levy suit.

Here you have police officers flaunting the law, and yet, record labels have destroyed lives through punitive damages of regular citizens over unintentional sharing.

It just completely undermines and lays bare the hypocrisy underlying it all. One more mail in my anti-IP soapbox I guess.

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Post by nojokes »

joncrane wrote: post #6
acd wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But people should have the right to work peace. It should also be a basic human right not to be constantly monitored.

Like it or not, I believe that the "expectation of privacy" argument has been settled in courts. The answer is that if you're in public, you have no expectation of privacy. People have dashcams, cameras pointing out the front of their homes and businesses, and people may be recording random TikTok videos with you in the background. Police definitely have zero "expectation of privacy" when out on the job and it's a fa…

Just mentioning that this is in US. Where I live the dashcams are strictly forbidden like also recording the street in front of your house - police would arrive and destroy your equipment.

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

jlgaddis wrote: post #4

Hmm, would the playing of music by the police constitute a "public performance" (per copyright law)?

If they’re listening to their phone exactly like any other person walking down the street might do, then no.

If they were deliberately playing it over a PA system to a crowd, then yes.

You may not like this behavior, but we really don’t want to set a precedent that listening to music at normal volumes in public spaces is a punishable copyright violation.

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Post by dahart »

I’m suddenly interested in making a neural network that can mute a known reference audio from a stream while leaving the surrounding audio in tact. Doesn’t something like this already exist? It seems like Instagram and YouTube could pretty easily leave audio-edited videos online while addressing the copyright violation, without resorting to takedowns or account bans.

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Post by jacques_chester »

salawat wrote: post #13

The thing that kills me is this just goes to prove beyomd a shadow of a doubt, that punishment for breaking law is more a function of who you are, and your usefulness to those with the power to levy suit. Here you have police officers flaunting the law, and yet, record labels have destroyed lives through punitive damages of regular citizens over unintentional sharing. It just completely undermines and lays bare the h…

A nitpick: "flouting the law".
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