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Re: Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web

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Post by kjksf »

[deleted] wrote: post #6
baconface wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

does Apple really intend to do this?

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Actually, it was very clear. Jobs promised, in no uncertain words, that Apple will make Facetime an open standard. I remember that well, I was quite excited about that.

He lied and I'm quite surprised that virtually no one gave Apple the hard time they deserve for lying during a keynote speech.

To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceTime: "Upon the launch of the iPhone 4, Jobs promised that Apple would work in due course with standards bodies to make the FaceTime protocol an "open standard." As of May 2011, it is not yet known to have been ratified by any standards body, and the extent of work by Apple with regards to this promise is unclear as Apple has not released technical specifications for the service. FaceTime is not currently supported on any non-Apple devices."

Re: Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web

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Post by lpgauth »

kjksf wrote: post #11
[deleted] wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Actually, it was very clear. Jobs promised, in no uncertain words, that Apple will make Facetime an open standard. I remember that well, I was quite excited about that. He lied and I'm quite surprised that virtually no one gave Apple the hard time they deserve for lying during a keynote speech. To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceTime : "Upon the launch of the iPhone 4, Jobs promised that Apple would work in du…

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a patent problem...

Re: Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web

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Post by ugh »

kjksf wrote: post #11
[deleted] wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[deleted]

Actually, it was very clear. Jobs promised, in no uncertain words, that Apple will make Facetime an open standard. I remember that well, I was quite excited about that. He lied and I'm quite surprised that virtually no one gave Apple the hard time they deserve for lying during a keynote speech. To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceTime : "Upon the launch of the iPhone 4, Jobs promised that Apple would work in du…

Likely not a lie, rather a broken promise.

Re: Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

natrius wrote: post #4
reustle wrote: post #2

Not long until I'll be able to video chat on my Android via Google Talk, woo!

This is already possible on Gingerbread phones.

Actually the GTalk update that was released with 2.3.4 uses Neon-specific code rather than the actual video API that Google wrote themselves. It makes no sense and it's the reason that GTalk doesn't have video chat on other Gingerbread phones.

Re: Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web

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Post by rryan »

zmmmmm wrote: post #7

Is this Google's response to MS purchasing skype? Seems like the classic strategy of commoditizing your competitor's business (and they get a 2-for-1 deal since Apple is also wielding FaceTime).

Hm, I don't think so. This post is dated May 3rd, which predates the Skype deal's announcement by 7 days. Also, the WhatWG group for RTC's mailing list was first posted to April 12, 2011. So that potentially indicates this was in the works beforehand. Since Google purportedly put in a bid for Skype they no-doubt knew Skype was on the market, though.

I would guess this is more likely a response to FaceTime. Apple's core business is around getting people to buy iPhones, and FaceTime is exclusive to the iPhone and other Apple products.

Re: Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web

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Post by rryan »

angusgr wrote: post #17

Does anyone have any ideas what the timeline for browser support is likely to be? The website currently says they've been working closely with Mozilla and we expect to see WebRTC support in Firefox and Chrome soon! .

I wonder when Safari will get WebRTC support?

Re: Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web

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Post by bane »

kjksf wrote: post #11
[deleted] wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[deleted]

Actually, it was very clear. Jobs promised, in no uncertain words, that Apple will make Facetime an open standard. I remember that well, I was quite excited about that. He lied and I'm quite surprised that virtually no one gave Apple the hard time they deserve for lying during a keynote speech. To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceTime : "Upon the launch of the iPhone 4, Jobs promised that Apple would work in du…

If I recall correctly, this was also back when Apple was tooting the "standards are the wave of the future" horn pretty loudly during their short war with Adobe.

Now that that is more or less over, Apple is back to not really caring about it because frankly, most people have forgotten already.

Re: Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web

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Post by TuxPirate »

rryan wrote: post #16
zmmmmm wrote: post #7

Is this Google's response to MS purchasing skype? Seems like the classic strategy of commoditizing your competitor's business (and they get a 2-for-1 deal since Apple is also wielding FaceTime).

Hm, I don't think so. This post is dated May 3rd, which predates the Skype deal's announcement by 7 days. Also, the WhatWG group for RTC's mailing list was first posted to April 12, 2011. So that potentially indicates this was in the works beforehand. Since Google purportedly put in a bid for Skype they no-doubt knew Skype was on the market, though. I would guess this is more likely a response to FaceTime. Apple's co…

We can also see the project's creation time on http://code.google.com/p/webrtc/updates/list, Jan 27 2011
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