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Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by Griever » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:42 PM UTC

callahad wrote: post #8

wccrawford wrote: post #2

1) Downloads - I love the download bar. And the downloads tab lets you view the progress there, too. 2) Title Bar - You can actually drag using any empty space up there, including all that space to the right of the new tab button and around the close/maximize/etc buttons. 3) Massive Preferences List - Sorry, that's a feature. As for being hard to find what you want, without those options, you couldn't find it anyhow.…

6) Lack of Attention-to-Detail throughout - Still trying to find the 'broken gradient'. Everything looks fine to me. It's definitely there. Open the Web Inspector, pop it out into a new window, focus another window or application. Edit: Here's a side-by-side screenshot of the unfocused Web Inspector dialogs in Safari and Chrome: http://i.imgur.com/WftBr.png Also, it turns out that you can make it even worse by focusi…

Is this an OSX only issue? Just tried this on my Windows 7 box using version 13.0.772.0 and everything looks good to me.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by callahad » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:43 PM UTC

bimbly wrote: post #5

dsadsa wrote: post #4

This article is a waste of time. Don't read it. Just a whine drop.

But if you zoom all the way into the Hacker News image it doesn't implement anti-aliasing! Lol, that was my favorite complaint on this article; talk about digging for an excuse.

That's a legitimate complaint. The text was anti-aliased in the first image, but it was only done on a whole-pixel basis. Adding a background color apparently convinces chrome to switch to subpixel antialiasing.

Whole pixel anti-aliasing looks bad and is inconsistent: both with other parts of Chrome, and with the rest of the broader operating system.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by jtaby » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:44 PM UTC

callahad wrote: post #6

There are a couple of things to point out jtaby's critique of Chrome: 1. There's no small, unobtrusive way to monitor the progress of downloads. Actually, in OS X, the Chrome icon in the dock has a small pie chart overlay during downloads that indicates both the number of pending downloads as well as the aggregate progress of all downloads. If your dock is hidden, you can quickly and easily check the progress by hitt…

Thanks a lot for your comment, callahad. I'll try to respond to your comments.

1. You're right, I hadn't actually noticed that until after I wrote the blog post. I think it's because I hide the Dock by default (still doesn't explain why I didn't notice it in the app switcher)

My point was, there are three places to manage downloads. I have to manually close the Downloads bar. Worst of all (and this is something I forgot to point out in the post) is that closing the downloads bar actually makes the browser window smaller!

2. You're right, there are nice parts of having the preferences be in the tab.

3. I didn't mean the search field covers search results, it covers the website's UI. Here's another example of it blocking the UI, this time in github: http://cl.ly/1t450T1S0s2J2V0I3O1W

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by yarian » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:45 PM UTC

dsadsa wrote: post #4

This article is a waste of time. Don't read it. Just a whine drop.

Agreed. The author has way too much time on his hands.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by Kwpolska » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:46 PM UTC

In terms of the search field, you're terribly wrong. If there's a match under the search box and you hilight it, the bar moves away.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by thisisblurry » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:46 PM UTC

Feel free to let the Chrom(e|ium) authors aware of all of these "bugs" and "issues" here: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list

You might help yourself out if you increase your browser window's width beyond 500px. Sure, you did that for screenshot examples, but that's far from real-world usage (this is coming from someone who shuffles dozens of tabs around all day).

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by jtaby » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:46 PM UTC

FilterJoe wrote: post #7

Chrome has been my primary browser for the last year and I have not noticed the majority of issues discussed in the post. Great eye for detail but I suspect most people won't notice most of these issues. I've found that Chrome easily beats Firefox and IE8 for the one thing most people care about most: Get right to work while the browser is not in your way. It's fast and uncluttered, and is more secure than the compet…

Thanks for the comment. I agree with almost everything you said, but I would add that Safari doesn't suffer from most of these issues, though it suffers from other problems.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:46 PM UTC

jtaby wrote: post #13

callahad wrote: post #6

There are a couple of things to point out jtaby's critique of Chrome: 1. There's no small, unobtrusive way to monitor the progress of downloads. Actually, in OS X, the Chrome icon in the dock has a small pie chart overlay during downloads that indicates both the number of pending downloads as well as the aggregate progress of all downloads. If your dock is hidden, you can quickly and easily check the progress by hitt…

Thanks a lot for your comment, callahad. I'll try to respond to your comments. 1. You're right, I hadn't actually noticed that until after I wrote the blog post. I think it's because I hide the Dock by default (still doesn't explain why I didn't notice it in the app switcher) My point was, there are three places to manage downloads. I have to manually close the Downloads bar. Worst of all (and this is something I for…

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Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by jtaby » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:47 PM UTC

yarian wrote: post #14

dsadsa wrote: post #4

This article is a waste of time. Don't read it. Just a whine drop.

Agreed. The author has way too much time on his hands.

I _have_ been unemployed for a week.

Re: Google Chrome – Why I Hate It And Continue To Use It

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Post by code_duck » Tue, May 31, 2011, 6:48 PM UTC

These are odd and rather subjective complaints. I see the author acknowledges that in the conclusion. I agree with the good part points, following are my opinions on the 'bad'.

I rather like the downloads UI - I was just wondering why Safari doesn't have a downloads tab like Chrome does. The separate window is a little clunky for me, esp. since OSX doesn't make it easy to cycle through tabs of a window with a keyboard shortcut (that I know of - Cmd-Tab does applications, Ctrl-tab does Safari tabs. How do you get the Download window with a keyboard shortcut?).

Preferences: what? Too many? I see Chrome as minimalistic in that area. IE, Opera, Firefox and Safari all offer just as many preference options or more.

favicons in the tabs: Is a bunch of text or icons a better solution for tiny tab markers? Icons make much more sense to me there.

The search field is superior to modal windows. I don't think it's better in Chrome than Firefox or Safari, but it's not worse. If you don't like it being over the content, close it.

The new tab page: isn't much different than any other browser, except for Firefox which lacks on entirely.

The tab bar: after complaining about favicons, now text in the tabs is labeled a problem: what's better?

Loading UI: Should we put a 64x64 animated icon in the upper right of the browser that cycles when the page is loading?

"Non-native behavior, Native look" : Why would you expect to drag anywhere other than the toolbar on an OSX window?