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HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

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Re: HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

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Anyone else annoyed with how buggy the HBO Max apple tv software is? vs binging on Netflix, the experience has way more weird UI bugs and hangs. Finding we're constantly restarting the app/apple tv because it keeps hanging or erroring out.

yes, I have a regular profile and a kids profile and permissions get screwed up all the time when i switch between them to the point where i have to reboot the apple tv

Re: HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

#12

these seem like oddly specific complaints. personally i am impressed with the huge back catalog of old hanna barbera cartoons on the service it's pretty fun watching jetsons and seeing how far off some of their predictions were, but then other things are spot on.

They're not specific complaints. Said complaints can even be attributed to several streaming services. Why even bother releasing collections of something when there's major gaps in content for no apparent reason? Omitting content, whether it be through sheer incompetence or the company volunteering as a censorship board, does the series a horrendous disservice to its legacy.

Re: HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

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these seem like oddly specific complaints. personally i am impressed with the huge back catalog of old hanna barbera cartoons on the service it's pretty fun watching jetsons and seeing how far off some of their predictions were, but then other things are spot on.

> these seem like oddly specific complaints. personally i am impressed with the huge back catalog of old hanna barbera cartoons on the service

I think the difference is that you have sat down and watched it and liked it, while the article author has done this previously and wants to again, but half is missing.

Is all the Jetsons present? Is Hanna Barbera all there?

Re: HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

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these seem like oddly specific complaints. personally i am impressed with the huge back catalog of old hanna barbera cartoons on the service it's pretty fun watching jetsons and seeing how far off some of their predictions were, but then other things are spot on.

will you still be impressed if they also censor(ed) episodes of the Jetsons?

Re: HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

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Similar shenanigans are the reason I cancelled Disney+. I’ll pay a monthly fee for your entire back library. Otherwise, no thanks. Also, what’s the ethical issue with pirating content that is not for sale? I’d love to see a copyright overhaul that formalized abandonware and extended it to back catalogs of film and music. That way, people could legally torrent everything currently missing from these streaming platform…

> Also, what’s the ethical issue with pirating content that is not for sale?... (Offline-only distribution would count as “abandoned” in this regime.) Let's say I author a book and sell it as a paperback, but decide for whatever reason that I don't want to sell an e-book. Would you apply the same reasoning there? Is it ethical for you to torrent an unpaid for e-book copy because you've decided that's more convenient…

I’ll pirate book if it’s not available in DRM-free format for reasonable price.

Re: HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

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Similar shenanigans are the reason I cancelled Disney+. I’ll pay a monthly fee for your entire back library. Otherwise, no thanks. Also, what’s the ethical issue with pirating content that is not for sale? I’d love to see a copyright overhaul that formalized abandonware and extended it to back catalogs of film and music. That way, people could legally torrent everything currently missing from these streaming platform…

Purely devil's advocate would be someone along the lines of -- just because it isn't for sale now doesn't mean it might never be. Pirating it now deprives the owner of some amount of ability to make money from it in the future. Pretty flimsy, imo.

I've upvoted you because this point needs to be countered and stopped.

Something that was pirated does NOT equal a lost sale.

I might enjoy Charlie Chaplin films, I would never pay for the ability to watch them. I don't feel it is worth my money. It doesn't matter if it becomes available at some-point in the future, I won't ever pay for it. If anti-piracy measures were 100% effective and reasonable and I couldn't get a copy of his material without paying for it. I will never pay for it.

There are a lot of reasons that pirates use to justify their actions; some can be agreed with, others are self-serving rhetoric.

Another good example of this "Piracy does not equal lost revenue"; music.

Terrestrial radio stations do not pay for the music that they play (unlike internet based streaming services). *[edit: Another HN'er has corrected me, but they do pay a fee to the songwriter] So if I had the ability to hear the song on the radio, the artist did not receive a penny from my listening. They can continue to not receive any money if I play an .mp3 of the same song.

Re: HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

#17

Anyone else annoyed with how buggy the HBO Max apple tv software is? vs binging on Netflix, the experience has way more weird UI bugs and hangs. Finding we're constantly restarting the app/apple tv because it keeps hanging or erroring out.

My pet peeve is the Amazon Prime Video App. The UI is a mess, if I click on a recent tv show, it defaults to the latest season and it's very annoying to navigate back to the first season. They have great content but exploring the content available through the app is such a pain.

Re: HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, what’s the ethical issue with pirating content that is not for sale?... (Offline-only distribution would count as “abandoned” in this regime.) Let's say I author a book and sell it as a paperback, but decide for whatever reason that I don't want to sell an e-book. Would you apply the same reasoning there? Is it ethical for you to torrent an unpaid for e-book copy because you've decided that's more convenient…

I’ll pirate book if it’s not available in DRM-free format for reasonable price.

Do you have a right to everyone's IP who doesn't fit your expectations for reasonable access and price?

Re: HBO Max is failing the classic Tom and Jerry

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I propose the following paradigm which I'll call "RickRoll UIs." The developer builds a beautiful interface for searching, curating, and organizing media in a given genre. Everything down to the moment of streaming works as you'd expect, at which point some boring public domain content is looped for the given duration of that stream. Users would get the benefit of having the curated data accessible through the GUI--…

Building the interface itself is the trivial part of this exercise. How are you going to source the database of metadata of every media item produced in the last century?
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