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The Dunant subsea cable

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Re: The Dunant subsea cable

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Do those come with pre attached NSA listening devices [1] ? [1] https://siliconangle.com/2013/07/19/how-the-nsa-taps-underse...

Most certainly. You don’t land a cable in either the US or France without a classified annex to the license that provides for interconnection to their intelligence services.

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post #3

I know nothing of this type of engineering. How do you even start a project like this? Map the bottom of the ocean, figure out all the danger zones? What is the cost of doing something like this?

"What is the cost of doing something like this?"

Their Oregon to Japan cable, 9000km and laid in 2016, cost $300M.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2939316/googles-60tbps...

Re: The Dunant subsea cable

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Do those come with pre attached NSA listening devices [1] ? [1] https://siliconangle.com/2013/07/19/how-the-nsa-taps-underse...

There's a reason the vast majority of undersea cables have at least one end in a Five Eyes country. No need to tap it in the middle of the ocean then!

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post #3

I know nothing of this type of engineering. How do you even start a project like this? Map the bottom of the ocean, figure out all the danger zones? What is the cost of doing something like this?

I have no idea about how this stuff, but this wired article from 1996 written by Neal Stephenson about undersea cables is a fantastic read.

https://www.wired.com/1996/12/ffglass/

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post #12
post #3

I know nothing of this type of engineering. How do you even start a project like this? Map the bottom of the ocean, figure out all the danger zones? What is the cost of doing something like this?

"What is the cost of doing something like this?" Their Oregon to Japan cable, 9000km and laid in 2016, cost $300M. https://www.computerworld.com/article/2939316/googles-60tbps...

That is at least 1 order of magnitude cheaper than I would have guessed. Mind boggling that it's cheaper to do that then buy like the 4th best meal delivery app in Canada or whatever.

Re: The Dunant subsea cable

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post #12
post #3

I know nothing of this type of engineering. How do you even start a project like this? Map the bottom of the ocean, figure out all the danger zones? What is the cost of doing something like this?

"What is the cost of doing something like this?" Their Oregon to Japan cable, 9000km and laid in 2016, cost $300M. https://www.computerworld.com/article/2939316/googles-60tbps...

That sounds like money well spent, and a good deal considering what it enables. It would be incredible to see the multiple levels of govt around the world collaborate to create a publicly funded (bond sales) project for laying fibre optic across the planet which could not be sold to a private corp, and that guaranteed access to it based on population proportion, not GDP.

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post #8

You could load a modern Javascript-powered website in less than a minute with that.

My browser loads that page like forever, until I remember to _allow_ javascript on that page, like why on earth they render everything except the content at all.

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post #11

Do those come with pre attached NSA listening devices [1] ? [1] https://siliconangle.com/2013/07/19/how-the-nsa-taps-underse...

Most certainly. You don’t land a cable in either the US or France without a classified annex to the license that provides for interconnection to their intelligence services.

Let's say they do tap the cables (I reckon they do too but in case they don't) what can they actually see if the traffic is encrypted?

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What is the cost of doing something like this?" Their Oregon to Japan cable, 9000km and laid in 2016, cost $300M. https://www.computerworld.com/article/2939316/googles-60tbps...

That is at least 1 order of magnitude cheaper than I would have guessed. Mind boggling that it's cheaper to do that then buy like the 4th best meal delivery app in Canada or whatever.

Yeah that's what I was thinking too. It doesn't sound like money well spent, it sounds like a bargain to me, like "you'd be stupid not to do it" cheap for something the size of Google.
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