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Facebook testing notification to users about Apple privacy changes

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Re: Facebook testing notification to users about Apple privacy changes

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Post by tnt128 »

Here is the logic, if you allow tracking, we would show your more relevant ads, if you don’t allow, we will spam the shit out of you. Either way, you see tons of ads, but allow tracking, you see ads more relevant.

Of course that’s not how they word this. They framed it as a benefit,

Notice how it’s worded - allowing for better personalized ad experience - I bet when worded this way, a good percentage of people will think, of course I want the ads to be more related to me and click allow.

Re: Facebook testing notification to users about Apple privacy changes

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Post by ArmandGrillet »

Wow, those encouragements are very weak. "Get ads that are more personalized", "Support businesses that rely on ads to reach customers": why would I support businesses relying on that when only 1 out of 5 ads in my feed is not garbage?

These encouragements make me think that Facebook seems to believe that their ads are useful, which is a bit insane from a user perspective.

Re: Facebook testing notification to users about Apple privacy changes

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Post by flatline »

reaperducer wrote: post #10
notyourwork wrote: post #3

Why would anyone agree to this? I don’t see a benefit to letting Facebook or any company track me across the internet. When did we ever decide this was what consumers wanted? Every time this topic comes up I check Facebooks stock price and realize how detached people are from facebooks revenue driven by the advertisement market.

Every time this topic comes up I check Facebooks stock price and realize how detached people are from facebooks revenue driven by the advertisement market. People don't drive stocks. Banks and bots do. Except for GameStop. But that's a different fish.

If you think that’s all retail driven I have a bridge to sell you...

Re: Facebook testing notification to users about Apple privacy changes

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Post by sneak »

notyourwork wrote: post #3

Why would anyone agree to this? I don’t see a benefit to letting Facebook or any company track me across the internet. When did we ever decide this was what consumers wanted? Every time this topic comes up I check Facebooks stock price and realize how detached people are from facebooks revenue driven by the advertisement market.

Millions of people already agreed to this: this is how every iPhone works right now, and always has.

Apple shipped this tracking feature in the first place.

Re: Facebook testing notification to users about Apple privacy changes

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Post by tehjoker »

ArmandGrillet wrote: post #13

Wow, those encouragements are very weak. "Get ads that are more personalized", "Support businesses that rely on ads to reach customers": why would I support businesses relying on that when only 1 out of 5 ads in my feed is not garbage? These encouragements make me think that Facebook seems to believe that their ads are useful, which is a bit insane from a user perspective.

Tech companies have been using this kind of rhetoric since the early 2000s. Back then, people were sympathetic to helping keep websites online, especially blogs and such owned by individuals. The line has lost its charm when it's turned into an inescapable global surveillance apparatus.

Re: Facebook testing notification to users about Apple privacy changes

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Post by erentz »

What would happen if legislation were passed to ban all tracking, across the board? Perhaps also inclusive of limits on targeted advertising also (to reduce the incentive to gather personal data).

It seems this kind of universal disarmament (so to speak) still leaves FB in the same dominant position from an advertising perspective. It has the same huge audience, and it’s advertising product is the same as everyone else. If so why wouldn’t FB be actively lobbying for this right now?

(I’m just putting aside questions of monopoly, etc. Purely from an FB self interest stand point.)

Re: Facebook testing notification to users about Apple privacy changes

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Post by sneak »

alex_young wrote: post #19

Can’t FB incentivize this a bit? I understand that they can’t gate the app with ad tracking approval, but what if they promised to provide you with discounts on the merchants this tracking promotes or something like that?

Better: Opt in or your WhatsApp stops working.
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