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Re: Right Forge

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Post by riffic »

war1025 wrote: post #3
lumpa wrote: post #2

That's a lot of very specific claims with no corroborating details, to the point I wondered whether it's real at all. Seems to be, headed by a Chris Bedford (apparently a The Federalist Senior Editor?). https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/29/finding-creative-intern...

Looks to me like a landing page for a probably still-being-built service. It's pretty obviously a response to the Parler incident, so I wouldn't expect them to have the infrastructure actually up and running yet.

this is what we in the cynicism business call "vaporware".

Re: Right Forge

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Post by trianglem »

This is going to be a haven for hate speech. I’m against it from the start and only solidifies my view that hate speech and free speech need to be mutually exclusive and codified in law in the US.

Re: Right Forge

#13

Post by war1025 »

riffic wrote: post #11
war1025 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks to me like a landing page for a probably still-being-built service. It's pretty obviously a response to the Parler incident, so I wouldn't expect them to have the infrastructure actually up and running yet.

this is what we in the cynicism business call "vaporware".

It could be, but I think vaporware requires a certain amount of time to have passed without it turning into something real. I don't think we've met that threshold yet.

Re: Right Forge

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Post by riffic »

trianglem wrote: post #12

This is going to be a haven for hate speech. I’m against it from the start and only solidifies my view that hate speech and free speech need to be mutually exclusive and codified in law in the US.

That would be a 1A trap. Notably, the ACLU takes the position "We should not give the government the power to decide which opinions are hateful, for history has taught us that government is more apt to use this power to prosecute minorities than to protect them"

https://www.aclu.org/other/freedom-expression-aclu-position-...

Re: Right Forge

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Post by smitty1e »

samdixon wrote: post #6

At the core I think a service like this is a good idea, but the amount of political rhetoric in the landing page would make me not want to use this service. Would prefer the service be completely agnostic to the underlying users and not favor a political party or ideology. That being said, I think this is more a reaction to a business need/market opportunity that exists rather than a true attempt at a platform that i…

If RightForge truly supports diversity of thought (we'll see) it will be a welcome improvemrnt over the usual suspects.

Re: Right Forge

#16

Post by trianglem »

riffic wrote: post #14
trianglem wrote: post #12

This is going to be a haven for hate speech. I’m against it from the start and only solidifies my view that hate speech and free speech need to be mutually exclusive and codified in law in the US.

That would be a 1A trap. Notably, the ACLU takes the position "We should not give the government the power to decide which opinions are hateful, for history has taught us that government is more apt to use this power to prosecute minorities than to protect them" https://www.aclu.org/other/freedom-expression-aclu-position-...

Times have changed. I’ll take those chances against unchecked spread of hate propaganda on the internet. Besides, nations like Germany have already codified this into law, it wouldn’t be a first foray.

Re: Right Forge

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Post by chris_wot »

kemitchell wrote: post #8
chris_wot wrote: post #5

They still have to follow section 230 of the CDA, right? They will need to remove material that is "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected". There is a component to this where they have to have "good faith", but eventually this will go to court.

I'd encourage you to read the CDA again. I suspect some things you think Section 230 requires are actually things Section 230 merely supports companies in doing. See Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._American_Civil_Liberti...

Damn. I just reread the section. You are entirely correct.

Re: Right Forge

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Post by ssbertilson »

throw8djkn3bdj wrote: post #7

If this company is indeed run by the senior editor of the right-wing rag The Federalist, then it is deeply hypocritical. The Federalist is loading scripts from Cloudflare, Taboola, Quantserve, Facebook and others. This site is on SquareSpace. You can't stand on a soapbox and whine about not being allowed to stand on a soapbox. These people think they're oppressed because they can't make death threats and plot deadly…

Did you even listen to the podcast? It is obviously not "run" by Chris Bedford...he mentioned his inability to deal with even simple ID more than once in the podcast.

Re: Right Forge

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Post by ssbertilson »

war1025 wrote: post #13
riffic wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is what we in the cynicism business call "vaporware".

It could be, but I think vaporware requires a certain amount of time to have passed without it turning into something real. I don't think we've met that threshold yet.

Good points have been made about the hosting for rightforge.com - it looks like bargain-basement hosting so if there is anything like what was described in the podcast behind it, there better be a lot more coming to light soon to back it up.

Re: Right Forge

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Post by martinavila »

throwaway98249 wrote: post #4

Hosting service free from big tech, but uses Squarespace, Google Maps, Google Analytics, Facebook Edit: even if they can't host their own site yet, the embeds/links aren't a great sign

Got this up quickly while we launch the real thing on our stack. I mention this in the podcast, absolutely going to be moving off of squarespace.
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