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Berty: Peer-to-peer messaging app that works with or without internet access

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Re: Berty: Peer-to-peer messaging app that works with or without internet access

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The only p2p messenger I've used that hasn't suffered too badly from "blank canvas" is Manyverse. It's technically not a dedicated messenger (more like a p2p encrypted Facebook equivalent, with a p2p FBMessenger equivalent built-in as a side feature), but that aspect just makes it a lot easier to find people to chat with. It's unfortunately not quite as stable/performant as Briar though (yet).

I did have a bit of a play with Manyverse (and with SSB itself in the past) and it looks interesting. The lack of syncing between desktop and mobile SSB accounts is a bit of a pain which I think will hinder adoption until they come up with a solution to that. I do worry that a lot of these newer messengers and networks are operating on a memory of what social networking was like in 2010. Quite a few at least handle p…

> lack of syncing between desktop and mobile SSB accounts is a bit of a pain

Yeah that's something they're actively trying to figure out, but it's tricky given their "Signal-/WhatsApp-esque" single-device architecture.

I think some of the work Matrix are doing on federated key exchange could be of some help though; my general understanding is that multidevice, single-account encrypted communication is hard.

Re: Berty: Peer-to-peer messaging app that works with or without internet access

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Looks interesting but from what I can tell currently isn't available on app stores to immediately try out. It does at least have a nice logo which is ultimately enough to make me try something :p I'd like to see the slew of new messengers coming out also address one of the few areas keeping people on Facebook: group event planning. There's lots of places to chat, but not many alternatives for sharing and planning eve…

I've been thinking the same, so i built https://hollr.at. it's a PWA and probably alpha/beta quality at this point, being a side project. It works pretty good for me at least and others not familiar with it can join and attend without an account which seems to be appreciated. There is no stickiness or discovery to it though.

Apart from meetup.com I'd say that eventbrite.com looks pretty good. There is also https://mobilizon.org/en/ which seems to be federated, so you have the option to self host

Re: Berty: Peer-to-peer messaging app that works with or without internet access

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Looks interesting but from what I can tell currently isn't available on app stores to immediately try out. It does at least have a nice logo which is ultimately enough to make me try something :p I'd like to see the slew of new messengers coming out also address one of the few areas keeping people on Facebook: group event planning. There's lots of places to chat, but not many alternatives for sharing and planning eve…

I've been thinking the same, so i built https://hollr.at . it's a PWA and probably alpha/beta quality at this point, being a side project. It works pretty good for me at least and others not familiar with it can join and attend without an account which seems to be appreciated. There is no stickiness or discovery to it though. Apart from meetup.com I'd say that eventbrite.com looks pretty good. There is also https://m…

This hollr idea is cool. I feel like just having your own instance of this would be enough as a product.

Re: Berty: Peer-to-peer messaging app that works with or without internet access

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When will the cross platform driver be available for offline communcation. As it stands looks using the Berty will be restricted by Android to Android or iOS to iOS communication Also what are the typical distant constraints in an offline environment

The BLE driver will be iOS, Android and linux cross compatible.

Re: Berty: Peer-to-peer messaging app that works with or without internet access

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Looks interesting but from what I can tell currently isn't available on app stores to immediately try out. It does at least have a nice logo which is ultimately enough to make me try something :p I'd like to see the slew of new messengers coming out also address one of the few areas keeping people on Facebook: group event planning. There's lots of places to chat, but not many alternatives for sharing and planning eve…

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Re: Berty: Peer-to-peer messaging app that works with or without internet access

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This brings up a question I still haven't gotten a clear answer to: why isn't Signal peer-to-peer like this?

What is it about p2p that made it not doable, rather than Signal's current setup where every message goes through a centralized server before reaching the recipient?

Would appreciate any insight.

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