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New Transistor Structures At 3nm/2nm

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Re: New Transistor Structures At 3nm/2nm

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What is the benefit of smaller transistors? Serious question. Why does it matter if I have 7nm vs. 5nm vs. anything else?

Smaller distance -> lower resistance -> less heat -> higher clocks/more stuff per clock allowed with same amount of heat produced -> higher performance.

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#13

What is the benefit of smaller transistors? Serious question. Why does it matter if I have 7nm vs. 5nm vs. anything else?

Smaller means closer together. Closer together means less time for a signal to move from one to another. Less time means higher clock speeds.

If you CPU is 100mm across, the speed of light limits it to 3GHz because that's how many times you can cross the cpu travelling at c. At 10mm you get 30GHz.

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#14

What is the benefit of smaller transistors? Serious question. Why does it matter if I have 7nm vs. 5nm vs. anything else?

Smaller distance to travel so signals get from one gate to another quicker which will enable a higher clock speed.

Smaller devices use less power so less heat and longer battery life.

Smaller devices mean a smaller chip which is cheaper (although mask costs will be more expensive) or use the extra area for more features like more cache or another processor core.

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What is the benefit of smaller transistors? Serious question. Why does it matter if I have 7nm vs. 5nm vs. anything else?

Smaller means closer together. Closer together means less time for a signal to move from one to another. Less time means higher clock speeds. If you CPU is 100mm across, the speed of light limits it to 3GHz because that's how many times you can cross the cpu travelling at c. At 10mm you get 30GHz.

> If you CPU is 100mm across, the speed of light limits it to 3GHz because that's how many times you can cross the cpu travelling at c. At 10mm you get 30GHz.

100mm across is 10cm, 0.1m, 4 inches. That’s palm-sized CPU - far from any modern silicon.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Smaller means closer together. Closer together means less time for a signal to move from one to another. Less time means higher clock speeds. If you CPU is 100mm across, the speed of light limits it to 3GHz because that's how many times you can cross the cpu travelling at c. At 10mm you get 30GHz.

> If you CPU is 100mm across, the speed of light limits it to 3GHz because that's how many times you can cross the cpu travelling at c. At 10mm you get 30GHz. 100mm across is 10cm, 0.1m, 4 inches. That’s palm-sized CPU - far from any modern silicon.

The reason we have shrunk the CPU is because the transistors etc that used to take 100mm can now be held in 10mm.

Theres always this trade off between complexity and speed. Making the components smaller means you can have both!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you mind explaining how the production becomes more hazardous?

I think parent might have confused Germanium with Cadmium? I am no chemist. It could also require other more toxic substances to control reactions or act a carrier. The whole area around Sunnyvale is littered with toxic waste dumps from semiconductor manufacturing. [1] From [2], it says, "Some reactive intermediate compounds of germanium are poisonous", when then references [3] but I can't find the specific citation.…

> The whole area around Sunnyvale is littered with toxic waste dumps from semiconductor manufacturing.

Makes me wonder how this is dealt with in Taiwan.

Re: New Transistor Structures At 3nm/2nm

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Smaller means closer together. Closer together means less time for a signal to move from one to another. Less time means higher clock speeds. If you CPU is 100mm across, the speed of light limits it to 3GHz because that's how many times you can cross the cpu travelling at c. At 10mm you get 30GHz.

> If you CPU is 100mm across, the speed of light limits it to 3GHz because that's how many times you can cross the cpu travelling at c. At 10mm you get 30GHz. 100mm across is 10cm, 0.1m, 4 inches. That’s palm-sized CPU - far from any modern silicon.

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