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Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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Do you think it's possible that Air Force One Pilots are instructed to land at unconventional spots on the runway to foil potential threats? Perhaps even to land at different spots on the runway on different landings? I know it sounds far-fetched, but my mom who was the "Cultural Affairs Officer" at the US Embassy in San Jose Costa Rica was instructed to take a different route from home to the embassy and back every…

Maybe if they were landing in a risky country (the presidents have visited warzones like Iraq), but even then, they would ensure the airfield and a 10km radius around it would be clear and secure. If they cannot ensure that, how would landing in an unconventional spot improve security? Every part of an AF1 flight is tightly orchestrated on the one hand, and on the other, they would keep the exact flight route and timing a need-to-know secret.

Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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Buried in the comments[1] is a jpg showing the sequence of multiple photos and one of the images has smoke from the tires landing : https://i.stack.imgur.com/QTrv2.jpg It's a fun mental exercise to know that the final answer is landing while reading the answers that forcefully argue that the plane is taking off . Some of the "evidence" to support that the plane is taking off is very persuasive. [1] https://aviation.s…

Well, that's interesting. The person who originally wrote the Aviation SE question was claiming to be the original photographer and saying he couldn't remember if the plane was taking off or landing... But, if the internet had access to the whole sequence of images, surely he did as well? So why was he asking? Was it just a puzzle?

EDIT: From a different comment, it's clear that the photographer later found the whole series of pictures AFTER asking the question, and posted them online. So the photographer was confused, but later found the rest of his photos, which definitively show the plane LANDING. Case closed.

Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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post #6

Do you think it's possible that Air Force One Pilots are instructed to land at unconventional spots on the runway to foil potential threats? Perhaps even to land at different spots on the runway on different landings? I know it sounds far-fetched, but my mom who was the "Cultural Affairs Officer" at the US Embassy in San Jose Costa Rica was instructed to take a different route from home to the embassy and back every…

> Do you think it's possible that Air Force One Pilots are instructed to land at unconventional spots on the runway to foil potential threats?

No. It's hard enough to nail a landing to pick the "right spot" especially when you don't need it

If there's a threat on ground the best thing you can do is stay on air, not try to land on a different spot of the same runway (but yes, given some types of obstructions you can try to use only part of the runway, I'm not sure if they prefer you landing after it or in front of it, but I think the latter makes more sense - depending on the type and position of obstruction of course)

Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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post #6

Do you think it's possible that Air Force One Pilots are instructed to land at unconventional spots on the runway to foil potential threats? Perhaps even to land at different spots on the runway on different landings? I know it sounds far-fetched, but my mom who was the "Cultural Affairs Officer" at the US Embassy in San Jose Costa Rica was instructed to take a different route from home to the embassy and back every…

My uninformed intuition would be that trying to land the plane differently each time would introduce more risk than it would protect against (and what threats would it even protect against?).

You might be right with that suspicion, but if the person responsible for procedures puts up a rule demanding unpredictable runway usage they have done their job Very Well. A cautious "this might not be such a good idea actually" however will make them seem weak in certain eyes and might even make them some personal enemies, for displaying lack of trust in the pilots' abilities. I suspect that nobody without the career instincts to intuitively know those things will come anywhere close to that plane.

Re: Is this plane landing or departing? (2017)

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This is why I don't understand why people like to take photographs of planes. They look the same every time! (The same holds for cars).

This applies even more to the moon, in my opinion.

Looking at the moon, that's one thing. But taking a picture of the moon? Go to NASA or Wikipedia for a great high-res picture.

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