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Re: Parler Hosting Requirements

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Copying their requirements as text (original grammar preserved, including GB and Gb confusions). It's a good glimpse of what unlimited cloud budget does to companies. I quote: """ * 40x i3.Metal instances (64 vCPU's, 512 Gb ram (more ram, of course, better for those)), 14 Tb nVME e/a (Scylla cluster) * 70-100x (96 vCPUs, 768 GB RAM) - 4 Tb nVME e/a (PSQL cluster, could use more RAM and CPU, but not easy to get) * 300…

What's that total up to in "expected AWS bill per week", say?

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#13

Flagged. This has been posted multiple times in the last day. Stop making new accounts repeatedly to get around the rules.

Excuse me?

While my account is relatively young (13 days), it's not one day old. You can also look into my comments over this time. So, the accusation is clearly off.

Re: Parler Hosting Requirements

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According to Wikipedia, Parler has only 30 employees total. That presumably includes everything from management to engineering to legal. I wonder how big the engineering team is and how that affects these requirements. My casual guess is Facebook and Twitter are an order of magnitude more efficient with their hardware given their large staff and scale?

Re: Parler Hosting Requirements

#15

I have said it before, I will say it again: Own your infrastructure.

It's hard to "own your infrastructure" when you needs are so extreme. Part of the job of tech workers is to make things efficient so that the company doesn't end up with an outsized OpEx or CapEx. With all this hardware required, they have made it impossible to own their own hardware.

Uh, is it just me, or does that sound like a hell of a lot of hardware for a site with only 15,000,000 registered users and an average of 2,300,000 active ones?

Re: Parler Hosting Requirements

#18
Everything we’ve seen so far suggests they didn’t (don’t?) have the best tech people working for them, but they do have a lot of money at their disposal. This looks really over-provisioned compared to the reported size of their site, there is no caching layer that I can make out, I bet they are using those forty i3s to host user content as blobs in a database. If they added a couple varnish servers and moved the user content to S3 (or similar - you can get much better deals with the same api from other vendors) they could probably ditch > 90% of this.

When I was at Tumblr they also overbuilt a huge amount of infrastructure just because they had the investor money - they dropped something like 1.4 million on two Cisco routers, each one could probably handle all the traffic in South America - but you need two of them, right? They dropped another half million a year on four network engineers to manage the two routers, and they had nothing to do most of the time so they sat around staging gladiatorial contests between a couple turtles and whatever the pet shop had that day. I’m sure the users would have been outraged and canceled Tumblr if they knew that was going on.

Re: Parler Hosting Requirements

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Copying their requirements as text (original grammar preserved, including GB and Gb confusions). It's a good glimpse of what unlimited cloud budget does to companies. I quote: """ * 40x i3.Metal instances (64 vCPU's, 512 Gb ram (more ram, of course, better for those)), 14 Tb nVME e/a (Scylla cluster) * 70-100x (96 vCPUs, 768 GB RAM) - 4 Tb nVME e/a (PSQL cluster, could use more RAM and CPU, but not easy to get) * 300…

By my calculations, this is somewhere between 11,680 and 18,560 vCPUs and 83,840 to 122,880 GB of RAM they're asking for.

Seems rather excessive for a mid-tier social networking website.

Re: Parler Hosting Requirements

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to "own your infrastructure" when you needs are so extreme. Part of the job of tech workers is to make things efficient so that the company doesn't end up with an outsized OpEx or CapEx. With all this hardware required, they have made it impossible to own their own hardware.

Uh, is it just me, or does that sound like a hell of a lot of hardware for a site with only 15,000,000 registered users and an average of 2,300,000 active ones?

It is. I really want to know what the hell is going on with their dev team.
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