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Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by finnthehuman »

pbronez wrote: post #6

> Once the iPhone was brought close to the ICD over the left chest area, immediate suspension of ICD therapies was noted which persisted for the duration of the test. Yeah so if you have a pace maker, try not to put magnets near your heart. The main practical impact for smart phone users with pacemakers seems to be that you shouldn’t carry a phone with a magnet mount in your breast pocket. The article also mentions W…

>just a minimally invasive off switch.

Yup. A safety mechanism that has to be low tech. And user training to avoid magnets is safer than a more complicated interface.

The reason this is news is that not all cellphones are magnets, nor is there any obvious indication which are magnets.

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Post by antihero »

mrkwse wrote: post #7
elric wrote: post #2

It's worth noting that almost anything with a magnetic field can interfere with a pacemaker, for instance induction hobs. Given the pervasiveness of, well, magnets (!), it's probably worth investing in pacemaker research which takes this into account ...

People don't tend to hug their hobs though...

How many people put their phone in their "upper pockets"? Or even have "upper pockets"?

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Post by linker3000 »

pbronez wrote: post #6

> Once the iPhone was brought close to the ICD over the left chest area, immediate suspension of ICD therapies was noted which persisted for the duration of the test. Yeah so if you have a pace maker, try not to put magnets near your heart. The main practical impact for smart phone users with pacemakers seems to be that you shouldn’t carry a phone with a magnet mount in your breast pocket. The article also mentions W…

Yes, the magnetic sensor allows the implant to be 'suspended' for tests or if other treatments need it 'off' for the duration.

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Post by rmu09 »

finnthehuman wrote: post #11
pbronez wrote: post #6

> Once the iPhone was brought close to the ICD over the left chest area, immediate suspension of ICD therapies was noted which persisted for the duration of the test. Yeah so if you have a pace maker, try not to put magnets near your heart. The main practical impact for smart phone users with pacemakers seems to be that you shouldn’t carry a phone with a magnet mount in your breast pocket. The article also mentions W…

>just a minimally invasive off switch. Yup. A safety mechanism that has to be low tech. And user training to avoid magnets is safer than a more complicated interface. The reason this is news is that not all cellphones are magnets, nor is there any obvious indication which are magnets.

IME all recent cell phones contain fairly strong magnets in their speakers. They tend to clog up with iron filings/dust in my workshop.

Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by Ensorceled »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #4

Editorialized title. The actual is: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets The article is about the iPhone 12. Just pointing out that magnets aren’t specific to the iPhone.

Just because the title is editorialized doesn't mean that is a bad thing, the first line of the article is:

> The Heart Rhythm Society has issued the following information regarding the use of the new iPhone 12 Series and ICDs.

The original title is, in classic British style, quite understated, some editorializing is justified.

Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by em10fan »

antihero wrote: post #12
mrkwse wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People don't tend to hug their hobs though...

How many people put their phone in their "upper pockets"? Or even have "upper pockets"?

Many men?

If you are wearing a suit, a smartphone makes the trouser pockets bulge a lot, so it's common to keep it in your shirt pocket or jacket inside pocket - Both of which is next to your heart.

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Post by manicdee »

antihero wrote: post #12
mrkwse wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People don't tend to hug their hobs though...

How many people put their phone in their "upper pockets"? Or even have "upper pockets"?

You mean the one the pocket protector goes in with your drafting pencil and calculator (well, phone in this day and age)?

Re: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets

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Post by Daho0n »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #4

Editorialized title. The actual is: Life Saving Therapy Inhibition by Phones Containing Magnets The article is about the iPhone 12. Just pointing out that magnets aren’t specific to the iPhone.

Editorialized is if the title express the posters opinion. It does not. If anything it makes it more clear.
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