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No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Re: No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Post by mchusma »

We have been assessing migrating from our own Hugo based site to webflow, so that our designers and business folks can more easily make edits and spin up landing pages, etc.

The main hangups right now are lack of transparent pricing around overages (it's "call for pricing") and we currently use AVIF and AV1 and those do not appear to be supported by webflow. I also think paid support tiers would be extremely helpful, like AWS. I'm actually happy to pay for good support straight from the company.

If anyone from webflow is listening, these are my main current requests.

Re: No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Post by mguerville »

I am happyu to see this crowd calling webflow for what it is, a WYSIWYG editor, I'm a non technical but tech savvy person and I've built simple sites (some with basic "app" like functionalities) in the past using Squarespace, Wix, Wordpress, and my current favorite: Tilda. Only in the past 18 months has everyone starting to call Webflow "no-code" and I felt like I must have been missing something.

Thunkable, Adalo, Bubble, those are no-code tools Webflow, Carrd (which I like but is also touted as no-code platform when it's basically a landing page builder) and in different categories Notion or Airtable... they're great tools but it feels misleading to call these "no code platforms"

Re: No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Post by singhrac »

I used Webflow extensively for a startup a few years ago where I did front-end development and a few non-technical people were trying to write out content pages (e.g. FAQ, features, etc.).

Honestly the whole experience was very underwhelming, but it might have been the team, not the product. Because there weren't components, it was hard to keep a consistent styling. And because the non-technical people didn't have a design sense, I ended up having to "clean" their work, then translate to CSS manually. I guess it was neat to try to explore example ideas, but a lot of those weren't translatable into "responsive" web pages (do people still do that anymore?).

Re: No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Post by verdverm »

mguerville wrote: post #13

I am happyu to see this crowd calling webflow for what it is, a WYSIWYG editor, I'm a non technical but tech savvy person and I've built simple sites (some with basic "app" like functionalities) in the past using Squarespace, Wix, Wordpress, and my current favorite: Tilda. Only in the past 18 months has everyone starting to call Webflow "no-code" and I felt like I must have been missing something. Thunkable, Adalo, B…

Agree, no-code is a hot marketing term right now.

The only legit no-code project I know of is https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode

Re: No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Post by [deleted] »

ChefboyOG wrote: post #9
aparsons wrote: post #2

If I had a dollar for every WYSIWYG web dev tool that bit the dust, I'd be able to single-handedly finance this round. Before the downvotes: I get it. Webflow is a nice tool. So was Dreamweaver when it appeared. And everything in between. This is an iterative process, with once tool better than the previous. Maybe Webflow will be the one to make non-trivial WYSIWYG work - but after having used it, I'm not betting on…

To be clear, non-trivial WYSIWYG already works. Wix and Shopify are both publicly traded companies, while Automattic and Squarespace are both planning 2021 IPOs. Wix shares have gone from roughly ~$17 in 2013 to ~$257 today, while Shopify has gone from ~$20 a share in 2016 to ~$1,184 today. Automattic's flagship platform—Wordpress—is responsible for over a third of all sites on the web, and Squarespace was generating…

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Re: No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Post by mguerville »

verdverm wrote: post #15
mguerville wrote: post #13

I am happyu to see this crowd calling webflow for what it is, a WYSIWYG editor, I'm a non technical but tech savvy person and I've built simple sites (some with basic "app" like functionalities) in the past using Squarespace, Wix, Wordpress, and my current favorite: Tilda. Only in the past 18 months has everyone starting to call Webflow "no-code" and I felt like I must have been missing something. Thunkable, Adalo, B…

Agree, no-code is a hot marketing term right now. The only legit no-code project I know of is https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode

Thanks for the link, I was able to deploy my first full fledged nocode app at last!

Re: No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Post by verdverm »

mchusma wrote: post #11

We have been assessing migrating from our own Hugo based site to webflow, so that our designers and business folks can more easily make edits and spin up landing pages, etc. The main hangups right now are lack of transparent pricing around overages (it's "call for pricing") and we currently use AVIF and AV1 and those do not appear to be supported by webflow. I also think paid support tiers would be extremely helpful,…

Have you looked into hugo CMS providers? There are some out their with these features, though I can't find the link right now...

Webflow support is ok, feature addition seems to be abysmal. Haven't seen anything significant since the last raise

Re: No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Post by chafik-bel »

I believe that no-code is the right solution in some areas like building quickly a website for those who don't want to hire a developer. I have another use-case in the cloud management which is a product I developed https://www.brainboard.co that generates Terraform code from a drawing and I think no-code will be present in more and more domains.

Re: No-code platform Webflow (YC) raises $140M at a $2.1B valuation

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Post by verdverm »

mguerville wrote: post #17
verdverm wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree, no-code is a hot marketing term right now. The only legit no-code project I know of is https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode

Thanks for the link, I was able to deploy my first full fledged nocode app at last!

That's awesome, you are now ready for "high code"

https://github.com/hofstadter-io/hof

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