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Taking FOSDEM online via Matrix

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Re: Taking FOSDEM online via Matrix

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Matrix has such incredible potential, but is still missing a mainstream-focused IM client with a beautiful UI and appealing UX. If there are any Swift devs looking for a passion/side project like this, hit me up (link in bio)!

You don't have to like it, but how is Element not mainstream-focused in its objectives?

Re: Taking FOSDEM online via Matrix

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We had a wonderful all-free-software NixCon 2020 a few months ago (with live talks via Jitsi for talker but not audience for better networking topology). All the code is in https://github.com/nixcon/nixcon-video-infra . It's probably too close to FOSDOM for the Element crew to hop on the Nix bandwagon for this project, alas, but I look forward to seeing the FOSDEM effort and and ours cross-pollinate in the future!

very cool - thanks for the pointer :) There seems to be a lot of Nix / Matrix crossover, although for hosting the Matrix bits of FOSDEM we'll be using Debian this time (especially given the crazy tight timeline).

Indeed there is! Yes the crazy tight timeline indeed justifies it. We'll just get you all off Debian by next year's :).

Re: Taking FOSDEM online via Matrix

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post #7

Matrix has such incredible potential, but is still missing a mainstream-focused IM client with a beautiful UI and appealing UX. If there are any Swift devs looking for a passion/side project like this, hit me up (link in bio)!

Wouldn't https://nio.chat qualify?

I’ve actually had a pleasant chat with the developer of Nio regarding working together, but we ended up deciding it’s better to work on separate projects.

Nio is still in very early stages; the developer plans to refactor most of the app and couldn’t commit to a specific timeline or direction for it. On top of that, my vision for a client includes spinning up a (privacy-focused) business and later expanding to web, Android, and PCs.

Re: Taking FOSDEM online via Matrix

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I have set up synapse myself a few months ago for my personal domain. I am a happy user so, have been bridging my different chat applications through it.

There is one caveat: looks like "agreeing on how to do video" is not a Matrix standard; it's in the UI configuration or "widgets", which means only matrix/element combo is "properly" supported (with caveats).

Has anyone had success running video calls over Matrix without Element? Is there any movement on the protocol side?

Extending to this thread, will non-element applications have reasonable support for watching (video) fosdem?

Re: Taking FOSDEM online via Matrix

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Matrix is amazing but even as a programmer I have no idea what their Security and Privacy page means. If it is meant for masses then average Joe should be able to understand it.

Links to the pages you're referring to?

I found their Privacy Policy surprisingly approachable (https://matrix.org/legal/privacy-notice). Maybe because I've read through tons of policies before, but theirs seem to use very easy language, even for someone who's not a native English speaker.

Could not find any page who's title is just "Security".

Re: Taking FOSDEM online via Matrix

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I have set up synapse myself a few months ago for my personal domain. I am a happy user so, have been bridging my different chat applications through it. There is one caveat: looks like "agreeing on how to do video" is not a Matrix standard; it's in the UI configuration or "widgets", which means only matrix/element combo is "properly" supported (with caveats). Has anyone had success running video calls over Matrix wi…

> There is one caveat: looks like "agreeing on how to do video" is not a Matrix standard; it's in the UI configuration or "widgets", which means only matrix/element combo is "properly" supported (with caveats).

Sounds like XMPP all over again.

Re: Taking FOSDEM online via Matrix

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post #7

Matrix has such incredible potential, but is still missing a mainstream-focused IM client with a beautiful UI and appealing UX. If there are any Swift devs looking for a passion/side project like this, hit me up (link in bio)!

You don't have to like it, but how is Element not mainstream-focused in its objectives?

Element looks and feels more like a replacement for Discord or Slack than WhatsApp or Messenger. My intention is to build an alternative to the latter two in terms of UI/UX. Something your grandma could use, like Signal, but decentralized and with features like quote replies and message editing.

The goal would be to build a beautiful, private, secure, delightful instant messaging app that happens to run on Matrix, rather than building a Matrix client period. It’d still allow power users to do stuff like federation, but would by default abstract techie/Matrix concepts like homeservers, rooms, and encryption keys.

Re: Taking FOSDEM online via Matrix

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Great to see Matrix progress. Big fan of Matrix me for sure.

Personal opinion as a frequent conference attendee, I do not like pre-recorded talks.

I see why they are doing it, but I think its at the expense of conference experience.

There will be less motivation to be there to watch when you can view online later.

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