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Re: Bitcoin is a disaster

#11

I was following along until this bit which seems to hold up the entire argument: > [BTC mining] is often done using electricity which is effectively stolen from taxpayers with the help of government officials Can somebody elaborate on the stolen/corruption angle?

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Re: Bitcoin is a disaster

#13
Completely agreeable, albeit it misses a point: Governments can't print more of it.

That's it really, everything else is noise.

I can sympathize with btc (I wish we still had a gold standard, or a standard based on the price of common goods) but I don't see much the other benefits.

On top of this, governments could ban btc.

Re: Bitcoin is a disaster

#14
I was real excited the first time that Bitcoin was explained to me. I saw it as the first real alternative to paper money. But what I soon learned is that most of the people associated with Bitcoin saw it as digital gold and were only interested in seeing the value rise and cashing out.

I've seen a few positive developments every once in a while that fail to get much adoption. So I keep waiting and waiting. It increasingly looks to me like whatever solution eventually wins will be built upon the existing banking system ;<(.

Re: Bitcoin is a disaster

#16

I was following along until this bit which seems to hold up the entire argument: > [BTC mining] is often done using electricity which is effectively stolen from taxpayers with the help of government officials Can somebody elaborate on the stolen/corruption angle?

Not 100% sure but there was some news a few years back about miners setting up shop in towns which had really low energy costs because they bought a fixed block of power from a nearby source and thus it was super cheap... as long as they didn't have to go over that initial purchase, after that it became more expensive than normal for everyone.

Re: Bitcoin is a disaster

#18
> The pseudonymity of coins being owned by the bearer of some > cryptographic key is a failure; People have been eavesdropping and > aggressively analyzing the block chain from day 1. And the block chain > will always be there, it will always be public, and it will always be > subject to further analysis. And we are learning that analysis of that > record is sufficient to destroy any pretense of anonymity or > pseudonymity.

Yeah, privacy is a joke on blockchains. Perhaps that is why actually private coins like Monero are having such 'difficulty' getting adoption on mainstream platforms, with shitcoins getting preference. I suspect that if coinbase tried to add Monero, they would get a very angry letter from the CIA/FBI (perhaps this already happened, they have been having 'technical difficulties' adding it for years now).

Re: Bitcoin is a disaster

#19

I was following along until this bit which seems to hold up the entire argument: > [BTC mining] is often done using electricity which is effectively stolen from taxpayers with the help of government officials Can somebody elaborate on the stolen/corruption angle?

I think he's exaggerating here, but there are definitely examples where people especially in China have setup huge operations with the help of local officials who give them sweetheart deals on the electricity prices -- seems likely that the officials helping this happen may get some sort of benefit from this arrangement, but not sure if that has actually been reported or just assumed. In Washington state there were a number of bitcoin operations that started in areas with low cost power that promised to bring jobs to the area and my understanding was that the local power company often did upgrades to lines and substations to accommodate the added power needs -- the local taxpayers definitely would either pay for that capital cost or pay the additional maintenance costs down the road.

Re: Bitcoin is a disaster

#20

I was following along until this bit which seems to hold up the entire argument: > [BTC mining] is often done using electricity which is effectively stolen from taxpayers with the help of government officials Can somebody elaborate on the stolen/corruption angle?

https://news.bitcoin.com/chinese-kennel-owner-caught-stealin...

https://news.bitcoin.com/bulgarian-electricity-company-unvei...

https://www.coindesk.com/illegal-miners-in-russia-stole-6-6m...

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