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Re: Voat Shuts Down

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Post by nikau »

kdtsh wrote: post #10
Thorentis wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Hateful" is subjective. Where you hang out simply has a different definition of hateful to where they hang out.

Utter nonsense. The community of Voat, as well as other far right/alt-right online communities, are hateful and wrong. If a group is intolerant of an unchangeable characteristic of another group (esp. race, socio-religious background, etc.), then it is hateful group to be opposed by free society.

Indeed - there is some leeway for dark humour and whatnot, but voat was just pure vitriolic racism

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Post by api »

nikau wrote: post #5
Barrin92 wrote: post #3

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this is likely good news. When reddit closed down hate subreddits people migrated to other subreddits and researchers studied their behavior. Turned out that individual users reduced their hateful behavior once they entered into more mixed communities. I don't think there is much evidence for this 'Lich King' thesis that keeps coming up on HN. Destroying these platforms has likely positive effects. I'm surprised peop…

I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

4chan /pol, the original cesspool for this stuff, was created as a “containment board” to try to get the Nazi edgelord shit off other boards on the site. It didn’t work. Instead it grew there until it about took over the whole site.

A separate site like Voat may be a bit different though. That is more of a closed ghetto for it.

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Post by [deleted] »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #8
nikau wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

That is fine until there are implications in the real world. Extremist echo chambers can convince someone to commit a physical atrocity such as a shooting or bombing. The real question is whether or not the shooter who frequents 8chan/2chan/voat/etc would have committed the shooting if they didn’t frequent extremist sites?

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Re: Voat Shuts Down

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Post by api »

Thorentis wrote: post #9
nikau wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

"Hateful" is subjective. Where you hang out simply has a different definition of hateful to where they hang out.

So if I punch you, that’s just another way of patting you on the back?

It’s really ironic that given how much they bash it, the far right seem to be the ones who have taken postmodern nihilism the most seriously.

Re: Voat Shuts Down

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Post by api »

SubGenius wrote: post #7

The community platform I'm building was linked in a Voat thread about alternatives to move to, which led to a bit of traffic a few days ago. A number of people (20+) signed up but haven't posted any voat-like content yet. I suppose the focus on tech/code and lack of political content dissuaded them completely. Good!

Just add a BLM solidarity banner to your web site. Very good Nazi repellent. Someone should make one that only shows if certain sites are the referer.

Re: Voat Shuts Down

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Post by mlN90 »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #8
nikau wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

That is fine until there are implications in the real world. Extremist echo chambers can convince someone to commit a physical atrocity such as a shooting or bombing. The real question is whether or not the shooter who frequents 8chan/2chan/voat/etc would have committed the shooting if they didn’t frequent extremist sites?

I understand what you are saying but it cannot fall on existing communities to accept people who doesn't align with the communities goal.

And to your real question: its nothing different than saying movies and video games inspires a CRAZY PERSON to do harm. I can read 'Mein Kampf' without building gas chambers, and I'm sure you can too.

Re: Voat Shuts Down

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Post by tomjen3 »

kdtsh wrote: post #10
Thorentis wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Hateful" is subjective. Where you hang out simply has a different definition of hateful to where they hang out.

Utter nonsense. The community of Voat, as well as other far right/alt-right online communities, are hateful and wrong. If a group is intolerant of an unchangeable characteristic of another group (esp. race, socio-religious background, etc.), then it is hateful group to be opposed by free society.

There are a lot of places that are intolerant of men, would you suggest they be banned too?

Re: Voat Shuts Down

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Post by athriren »

Thorentis wrote: post #9
nikau wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer them to have full hateful behaviour in their own playpen rather than reduced hateful behaviour where I hang out.

"Hateful" is subjective. Where you hang out simply has a different definition of hateful to where they hang out.

i mean, there are surely differences in what people consider hateful, but in the case of voat there were open calls to “complete” the shoah, so i am not sure this is the community on which to stake your claim.

Re: Voat Shuts Down

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Post by kdtsh »

tomjen3 wrote: post #18
kdtsh wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Utter nonsense. The community of Voat, as well as other far right/alt-right online communities, are hateful and wrong. If a group is intolerant of an unchangeable characteristic of another group (esp. race, socio-religious background, etc.), then it is hateful group to be opposed by free society.

There are a lot of places that are intolerant of men, would you suggest they be banned too?

Who said anything about being banned?
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