I always get a feeling of existential dread when I read these kind of news.
Don't worry too much about it. In the end, everything will be nearly 0k.
had to read that twice to get it :)
The universe is expanding faster than expected
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Re: The universe is expanding faster than expected
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't worry too much about it. In the end, everything will be nearly 0k.
I appreciate your optimism. I tend to be optimistic about the future myself. But there is no law of the universe that everything will work out ok. Only if we make the right decisions as a species and we don't get unlucky. I'm quite apprehensive that the great filter lies ahead - that technology accelerates too rapidly compared to our wisdom and we end up nearly destroying ourselves. We're getting the ability to progr…
What does it mean to not pass the great filter? Humanity or their successor stop existing?
Re: The universe is expanding faster than expected
#13I always get a feeling of existential dread when I read these kind of news.
Don't worry too much about it. In the end, everything will be nearly 0k.
The worry is that not only will we be utterly destroyed, but that the destruction will be so thorough it will blow backward through time erasing all events that ever happened and making it so that we never even lived. That means everything we experience right now didn’t happen, we are just seeing a probability of what could happen but didn’t because it’s all destroyed. These lives mean nothing.
Re: The universe is expanding faster than expected
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't worry too much about it. In the end, everything will be nearly 0k.
The worry is that not only will we be utterly destroyed, but that the destruction will be so thorough it will blow backward through time erasing all events that ever happened and making it so that we never even lived. That means everything we experience right now didn’t happen, we are just seeing a probability of what could happen but didn’t because it’s all destroyed. These lives mean nothing.
If there is no afterlife, then oblivion is our inevitable destiny.
Re: The universe is expanding faster than expected
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't worry too much about it. In the end, everything will be nearly 0k.
The worry is that not only will we be utterly destroyed, but that the destruction will be so thorough it will blow backward through time erasing all events that ever happened and making it so that we never even lived. That means everything we experience right now didn’t happen, we are just seeing a probability of what could happen but didn’t because it’s all destroyed. These lives mean nothing.
That's a very specific worry.
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#17tl;dr the universe is expanding at 73kmps rather than 68kmps.
Re: The universe is expanding faster than expected
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
The worry is that not only will we be utterly destroyed, but that the destruction will be so thorough it will blow backward through time erasing all events that ever happened and making it so that we never even lived. That means everything we experience right now didn’t happen, we are just seeing a probability of what could happen but didn’t because it’s all destroyed. These lives mean nothing.
If there is no afterlife, then oblivion is our inevitable destiny.
No afterlife, no prelife, no life.
Re: The universe is expanding faster than expected
#19One thing that really frustrates me about cosmology, or at least popular science reporting and books, is a particular kind of lack of intellectual rigor. Specifically, even as a layman, it's clear that observation and model are being conflated.
Cosmology is a science in the broadest sense of being a field of human knowledge, but it isn't a science the way that, for example, physics is. It would better be described as a phenomenology[1]. I'm sure many will disagree with this factually more accurate description, because of the emotional role their ideation of science plays in their lives, but I believe it has greater intellectual utility and that a phenomenology can even be of greater value than an experimental science. This framing helps us understand that we should spend less time on trying to come up with dubious "natural experiments"[2] and more on the collection and publication of data in useful formats. And most of all, to be absolutely clear what the assumptions of the model are, even the most trusted ones, because they may well prove incorrect. But maybe this is just an issue in the popular press?
[1] "A description or history of phenomena." (not the definition from what we now call philosophy)
[2] Which aren't experiments at all because selection isn't control.
Re: The universe is expanding faster than expected
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't worry too much about it. In the end, everything will be nearly 0k.
The worry is that not only will we be utterly destroyed, but that the destruction will be so thorough it will blow backward through time erasing all events that ever happened and making it so that we never even lived. That means everything we experience right now didn’t happen, we are just seeing a probability of what could happen but didn’t because it’s all destroyed. These lives mean nothing.
I don't see how it's possible to un-make-something-happen. It already happened. It's gone. You can't kill what's already dead.