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The Internet Is for Porn

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Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#11
I didn't appreciate this article's tone. It seems to somehow suggest Silicon Valley entrepreneurs are evil for not having made the collective decision to launch porn startups. It takes me about five seconds to think of good reasons to not get involved in that business, that have nothing to do with being a bad person.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#12
> And Silicon Valley has almost nothing to do with it.

Wrong, it has a lot to do with it. Search engines, servers, laptops, cameras, websites, encryption, internet access,the list goes on...

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#13
Looks like the porn industry is bankrolling a PR campaign to legitimize their business. It is particularly amusing to see them pretend they are feminists when in truth practically all feminists hate porn.

And I also find amusing the implication that onlyfans is a win for sex workers. Yeah, maybe for the typical porn star it is a better deal, but on the other hand they are also corrupting a lot of young girls that would otherwise have never gone into porn.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#15
post #4

As an asexual person, I wish this wasn’t the case, and I find it extremely triggering how hard it is to completely avoid adult content online. It certainly has had a negative affect on my mental health. I also find it ridiculous how services like PornHub and OnlyFans are featuring a lot of videos which clearly fetishizes borderline (okay, obvious) pedophilia, and, since its profitable, only pull it down when they mig…

The fact that there is even a viable market for OnlyFans type content was such a disheartening thing to learn.

> viable market for OnlyFans type content was such a disheartening thing to learn.

why is that?

Somebody else enjoying content they paid for has nothing to do with you - it's easy to avoid and easy to not be involved.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#16
This is a super good read, if you have 10 minutes I highly recommend. I have absolutely no problems with pornography and if my own daughter decided this was the industry she wanted to enter I would help jumpstart her career anyway I could just as I would any career she chose. My wife and I are very free spirits and the previous HN discussions on Pornhub / NYT article made me feel like I was taking crazy pills and living in 1850’s Victorian England. The pearl clutching was so intense I was very worried the pearls would break from pressure!

The vast majority of those that enter the sex business are consenting adults with free agency and control over their own actions. That some people are angry later and feel shame is a result of society disapproving of their decision rather than genuine harm caused to them. We need to change attitudes towards sex work to remove the shame rather than stop entry into a massively popular and universal industry that crosses all cultures.

Vice - and by that I mean sex, drugs, and rock and roll - is best consumed in moderation and the human experience is improved because of it. Prohibition and outlawing massively popular industries drives them underground but does not eliminate the demand, overall harming the people who work in the business. The insane shutdown of Backpage, a website whose operators worked closely with law enforcement, just drove the prostitution industry underground and made it even harder for detectives to do their jobs. Furthermore the internet is global and shutting down western sites just moves them offshore where they are just as easily accessible but basically impossible to shut down.

In summation I applaud OnlyFans and wish that there was less shame and more support to employees of businesses like pornography that provide massive enjoyment and receive tons of hate for literally zero reason when analyzed rationally.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#17

Porn isn't going anywhere. The oldest known depiction of a human figure is pornographic [0]. Since porn will always exist, better that it be produced and consumed in the open, legally speaking. Sex workers deserve the same safety and labor protections as the rest of us. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Hohle_Fels

The article is not about sex workers but about virtual pimps and it is not advocating for sex workers but for the pimp's business. Big difference.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#19
post #16

This is a super good read, if you have 10 minutes I highly recommend. I have absolutely no problems with pornography and if my own daughter decided this was the industry she wanted to enter I would help jumpstart her career anyway I could just as I would any career she chose. My wife and I are very free spirits and the previous HN discussions on Pornhub / NYT article made me feel like I was taking crazy pills and liv…

How would you feel if your underage daughter did not want to work in porn, but someone covertly recorded her having sex and uploaded it to pornhub?

Because that's what was happening: mass unconsensual sharing of images, including images of children.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#20
I'm glad that monetized platforms like Twitch and OnlyFans exist. It's an accessible way for the younger generations to make ludicrous amounts of money for not too much up-front investment. There's definitely work and downsides involved, just not like some lesser paid, more credentialed professions. Hopefully this puts pressure on the essential jobs in society to actually raise compensation in comparison.

The rest of us boring, unattractive folks will just have to settle for desk jobs.

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