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UK Police tell people to report “extremist” friends and relatives

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Re: UK Police tell people to report “extremist” friends and relatives

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Isn't that what's meant to happen? If your kid starts talking about converting to Islam and becoming a jihadist, surely parents should alert the authorities. The interesting thing is why that wasn't the example they used, given it's the biggest extremist threat the UK faces by a country mile.

Because UKIP is a larger organisation

Re: UK Police tell people to report “extremist” friends and relatives

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post #7
post #5

Isn't that what's meant to happen? If your kid starts talking about converting to Islam and becoming a jihadist, surely parents should alert the authorities. The interesting thing is why that wasn't the example they used, given it's the biggest extremist threat the UK faces by a country mile.

Depends. Imagine doing so and having him or her be marked for life over a parents overreaction. Kid could end up on every no fly list in the world overnight and never fly their whole lives. The parents surely worry about these things, especially if they think the person will grow out of it. In any case, I can’t imagine how stressful it must be for those parents

That's on the government not to do idiotic things. True, they often do, but acting as if everything they do may be one is a pretty big fallacy. Soon you'll end up jaywalking because you're sure you know better.

Re: UK Police tell people to report “extremist” friends and relatives

#13
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends. Imagine doing so and having him or her be marked for life over a parents overreaction. Kid could end up on every no fly list in the world overnight and never fly their whole lives. The parents surely worry about these things, especially if they think the person will grow out of it. In any case, I can’t imagine how stressful it must be for those parents

That's on the government not to do idiotic things. True, they often do, but acting as if everything they do may be one is a pretty big fallacy. Soon you'll end up jaywalking because you're sure you know better.

> acting as if everything they do may be [idiotic] is a pretty big fallacy.

Have you not... seen... the UK government in action in the last 5 years?

Re: UK Police tell people to report “extremist” friends and relatives

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends. Imagine doing so and having him or her be marked for life over a parents overreaction. Kid could end up on every no fly list in the world overnight and never fly their whole lives. The parents surely worry about these things, especially if they think the person will grow out of it. In any case, I can’t imagine how stressful it must be for those parents

That's on the government not to do idiotic things. True, they often do, but acting as if everything they do may be one is a pretty big fallacy. Soon you'll end up jaywalking because you're sure you know better.

I jaywalk.

I wouldn't turn in a relative or friend based on suspicions.

Because I don't trust the incentives that law enforcement has coincide in any way with mine.

Re: UK Police tell people to report “extremist” friends and relatives

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post #5

Isn't that what's meant to happen? If your kid starts talking about converting to Islam and becoming a jihadist, surely parents should alert the authorities. The interesting thing is why that wasn't the example they used, given it's the biggest extremist threat the UK faces by a country mile.

Converting to Islam seems legit to me, I have doubts though the kid is still living at the same place with the parents once it became a jihadist. To me this seems like a well-intended idea from the UK but it's not how reality works. I would even go so far and argue that people develop and engage in extremist views only once they have actually broken ties to any 'normal' people. That said, all documentaries I remember watching about the topic, e.g. the people who did the 9/11 attacks, they were basically living solitude lives, and extremists were welcoming them with open arms.
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