Wikipedia: Don't Be High-Maintenance • Hacker News Board

Re: Wikipedia: Don't Be High-Maintenance

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Post by nix23 » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 12:19 AM UTC

BGthaOG wrote: post #9

nix23 wrote: post #2

Just imagine being naked and fight against a bull and casually grab his skin, in the meantime your buddy lays (naked too) on the ground and fears for his live, surrounded by peoples who have a discussion why you two are naked, and debating that it's no wonder that the one with the red towel was attacked first.

lol PS: For those that didn't catch what nix23 is referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_be_high-main...

HN is a really sad place, where no one even watches a article..let alone reading it.

Re: Wikipedia: Don't Be High-Maintenance

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Post by m1gu3l » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 1:13 AM UTC

It is depressing that they even need to devote time and energy in to writing this. Could be summarized in less words. “Calm down, you aren’t that important.”

Re: Wikipedia: Don't Be High-Maintenance

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Post by Xophmeister » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 1:55 AM UTC

Hmm... I’ve never identified as “high maintenance” — quite the opposite, in fact — but reading this gave me pause. On occasion, I exhibit many of the traits outlined in this article on projects at work. (I haven’t threatened to quit yet, but it’s on my mind as a possibility. One that I would follow through on, rather than using as an ultimatum.)

I never felt it was because of ego; rather that I have high standards that I wish to maintain. I don’t think I come across as “whiny” about them and am generally pretty accommodating in trying to help people attain them. If I can pass on good (imo) habits, then all the better, but one only has so much time and patience. Reading this makes me feel remorseful; that maybe others don’t see me as a helpful or approachable colleague, despite my intentions.

It’s definitely possible to be both humble and demanding; I’ve known many people like this (they’re often senior academics, but that may be a self-selected sample). What’s their secret?

Re: Wikipedia: Don't Be High-Maintenance

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Post by saurik » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 3:07 AM UTC

Xophmeister wrote: post #13

Hmm... I’ve never identified as “high maintenance” — quite the opposite, in fact — but reading this gave me pause. On occasion, I exhibit many of the traits outlined in this article on projects at work. (I haven’t threatened to quit yet, but it’s on my mind as a possibility. One that I would follow through on, rather than using as an ultimatum.) I never felt it was because of ego; rather that I have high standards th…

FWIW, I think there is a big difference between a large scale volunteer project, and a job. If your job isn't doing well by you, absolutely you should threaten to quit... you are essentially in a relationship and if you think the issue is correctable, everyone will be happier if you offer that option, and you do yourself a big disservice tolerate something you aren't comfortable with. But for Wikipedia? Would they even notice if you left? Did they negotiate with you originally to be there? Did they promise you anything? It is just a massive time sink for everyone if you threaten to quit: you should probably just leave.

Re: Wikipedia: Don't Be High-Maintenance

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Post by majkinetor » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 12:16 PM UTC

This is embarrassing article for Wikipedia, should be removed.

It is naive to the bone, its like some high school student wrote it.

Re: Wikipedia: Don't Be High-Maintenance

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Post by majkinetor » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 12:18 PM UTC

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #4

Alternatively: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_be_a_giant_di...

Ooo, this is much better article and much more entertaining.

Re: Wikipedia: Don't Be High-Maintenance

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Post by Unsimplified » Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 12:09 AM UTC

Wikipedia itself is high-maintenance because of the volatile deletionism. I appreciate the patience of the practical editors who have an inclusionist bent, but the add/protect process is too inefficient/risky for my liking. A lot of us don't have the time for political friction in simple knowledge sharing.

Re: Wikipedia: Don't Be High-Maintenance

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Post by johbjo » Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 12:57 PM UTC

Xophmeister wrote: post #13

Hmm... I’ve never identified as “high maintenance” — quite the opposite, in fact — but reading this gave me pause. On occasion, I exhibit many of the traits outlined in this article on projects at work. (I haven’t threatened to quit yet, but it’s on my mind as a possibility. One that I would follow through on, rather than using as an ultimatum.) I never felt it was because of ego; rather that I have high standards th…

Wikipedia makes a point that contributions do not correspond to rank. It seems the article addresses typical ways in which people come in conflict with this.

Most workplaces make the rank ladder part of the incentive structure. Usually, the organizational structure is explicitly part of the rank system. Efforts and contributions are rewarded with higher rank, which affords the right to boss others.

People who derive their ego/rank from other sources besides the org structure can be humble in the way you describe. It's not surprising if this group intersects with senior academics.