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Gustave Courbet’s ‘Origin of the World’, 19th Century’s most notorious painting

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There's so much hair by today's standard that you can barely see anything.

The hair is a thing in itself in some cultures.

Yes. It's important to remember that the person who commissioned the painting was a Muslim, and in Islam both men and women are supposed to shave their genital area and underarms, because that's their proper state, according to islamic belief.

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It seems that the head of the painting may have been found (though this is controversial).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/985...

https://archive.is/rGrXL

There is speculation that this world is part of a larger complete figure that Corbet painted.

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FYI, this needs an NSFW tag.

This was painted 154 years ago. I wonder if in another 154 years, in 2174, we'll still need cautionary labels on images of genitalia. Or if we may have matured a little by then (if we survive). I wouldn't bet on it.

The caution label isn't for my sensibilities, it's because I want to avoid potential hassle at work. Including having to explain what I was doing when someone sees my screen.

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I don't know if they're available in English, but this reminds me of Tardi's excellent Le Cri du Peuple

You mean of Jean Vautrin? And may I ask what is the connection between the article and the novel, which in English translation is called "The Voice of the People".

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In this case mature just implies being desensitized to seeing genitalia. I don’t know if that’s better than maintaining a healthy “lust” for the world around you especially in light of the fact that the world doesn’t offer infinite novelty. Everything in moderation?

I guess a culture that is mature enough not to be emotionally overwhelmed by their lust is also one with fewer unplanned pregnancies, a lower population, and less able to compete with more lustful cultures.

I was referring to maturity as a function of age and less about categorizing a whole culture as such. Regardless, I am referring to the maintenance of a healthy level of “fun” so life is more rewarding. It’s not really a trade off as you seem to be implying.

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It seems that the head of the painting may have been found (though this is controversial). https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/985... https://archive.is/rGrXL There is speculation that this world is part of a larger complete figure that Corbet painted.

I am dubious. Origin of the World has such deliberate composition that it's hard to believe that there used to be another whole panel's worth of content up top. It would ruin the piece.

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I don't know if they're available in English, but this reminds me of Tardi's excellent Le Cri du Peuple

You mean of Jean Vautrin? And may I ask what is the connection between the article and the novel, which in English translation is called "The Voice of the People".

It's a French comic book based on Vautrin's work. The painting plays a minor role in it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hair is a thing in itself in some cultures.

Yes. It's important to remember that the person who commissioned the painting was a Muslim, and in Islam both men and women are supposed to shave their genital area and underarms, because that's their proper state, according to islamic belief.

Neat! I was not aware of that.
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