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> The researchers emphasized that this study focused on common procedures, and on older Medicare patients. This means that the findings may not apply to other types of patients, or to other surgical procedures. Is there any reason Medicare would play a role in the surgeon's performance?
So they went to fish for correlations and found this? EDA at its best...
I feel like we need an opposite saying for sentiments like this to the age old "correlation does not equal causation", something like "correlation does not mean automatically dismiss"
So, only a fraction of the surgeons performed operation on their birthdays. Would be interesting to compare the outcomes using the same surgeon group: surgeries on birthday vs same-surgeon surgeries on other dates.
> Research on judges has yielded similar results. It has found, for example, that external factors as diverse as outdoor temperatures and sports results can influence judges’ decisions. When I hear of these funky effects I always wonder how they relate to AI. Presumably this is somehow related to some kind of lossy compression of the state of the world, maybe similar to principal components[0]? Where the "I feel grum…
> Research on judges has yielded similar results. It has found, for example, that external factors as diverse as outdoor temperatures and sports results can influence judges’ decisions. When I hear of these funky effects I always wonder how they relate to AI. Presumably this is somehow related to some kind of lossy compression of the state of the world, maybe similar to principal components[0]? Where the "I feel grum…
Is this partially that better/more experienced/senior/more affluent doctors are taking their birthday off, hence people getting more junior doctors?
It would be interesting to see how many more people die on a particular surgeons birthday compared with the rest of their year, rather than the birthday of the surgeon a patient gets.
So they went to fish for correlations and found this? EDA at its best...
I feel like we need an opposite saying for sentiments like this to the age old "correlation does not equal causation", something like "correlation does not mean automatically dismiss"
Too long
Correlative causation is more correlated with causation than non-correlative causation
Too tongue twisting
Correlation is closer to causation than no correlation
I like that
Ignoring possible causation is correlated with stupidity
Too cruel
Correlation does not equal causation but they are correlated
Not bad
Anyone else?
> They also found that some surgeons did not work on their birthdays Is this partially that better/more experienced/senior/more affluent doctors are taking their birthday off, hence people getting more junior doctors? It would be interesting to see how many more people die on a particular surgeons birthday compared with the rest of their year, rather than the birthday of the surgeon a patient gets.
So they went to fish for correlations and found this? EDA at its best...
I feel like we need an opposite saying for sentiments like this to the age old "correlation does not equal causation", something like "correlation does not mean automatically dismiss"
So if, in a study like this, they looked at differences in morality rate between: 1) men and women, 2) younger and older people, 3) younger and older surgeons, 4) surgeries in summer vs winter 4) surgeries in morning vs evening 5) etc etc.... And it came down all the way to n) surgeries on birthday - to find an effect. Then it would be almost guaranteed that such a finding is spurious.