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When did “the Internet” become “the internet?”

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Re: When did “the Internet” become “the internet?”

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There used to be things that weren’t the “Internet” that required acknowledgement of the difference with a noun, maybe. Like AOL and Prodigy were online but they weren’t the Internet. You could get to the Internet from them, but it was a distinct experience.

Maybe they were part of the Internet but not the Web?

Re: When did “the Internet” become “the internet?”

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I remember this being debated already in the 1990s, when the press wanted to start writing "internet". I think it's still the Internet (proper noun) and nothing has essentially changed since then.

The main explanation, which the article does mention, is that there's a tendency to capitalize novel terms: Big Data, Open Source, the World Wide Web, the Internet, Artificial Intelligence, etc. Some of these, including the Internet, are still often capitalized. But it can start to be a bit silly if you have a sentence like "We used Open Source Artificial Intelligence software to analyze our Big Data on the Cloud."

However the Internet is like the Earth — there is but one.

Re: When did “the Internet” become “the internet?”

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Originally, an "internet" was a network which linked together other smaller networks, for example two university campuses which each had their own, incompatible, in-campus networking technologies. You might have University U1 running IBM and University U2 running Decnet. IP protocols had nothing to do with it.

From there, we got the later backformation "intranet" for a network within an organisation.

When the TCP/IP suite became ubiquitous, some people concluded the distinction between "the" Internet, as defined by the root DNS servers, and "the internet" was superfluous, as there was essentially only one internet. There are no doubt internets running factories that are not "the internet" but for practical purposes the term is not ambiguous, as one would normally mention if such a network was disconnected.

The article is wrong in its definition of lower-case "internet" as an instance of any network running the IP stack.

For what it’s worth, the most recent Australian government style guide changed "the Internet" to "the internet". (But it’s not actually published by the government, and this edition has been controversial for other reasons.) I might personally use the upper case version if I thought there might be some ambiguity in the context, which would be almost never.

Re: When did “the Internet” become “the internet?”

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This article is based on misunderstanding, misunderstanding that could have been avoided had the author bothered to read the original internet memos which are, not surprisingly, available online! > capitalization [...] underscored that the Internet we used was just one particular iteration of the larger category of internets Actually we have a term for this concept and that term is the lowercase "internet". There wer…

> it says to me "people who think the network is Facebook and Google accessed through a web browser"

Did you type "Web" in lowercase to make a point? :)

Re: When did “the Internet” become “the internet?”

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This article is based on misunderstanding, misunderstanding that could have been avoided had the author bothered to read the original internet memos which are, not surprisingly, available online! > capitalization [...] underscored that the Internet we used was just one particular iteration of the larger category of internets Actually we have a term for this concept and that term is the lowercase "internet". There wer…

> it says to me "people who think the network is Facebook and Google accessed through a web browser" Did you type "Web" in lowercase to make a point? :)

Uses web protocols to access the World Wide Web :-)

Re: When did “the Internet” become “the internet?”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main explanation, which the article does mention, is that there's a tendency to capitalize novel terms: Big Data, Open Source, the World Wide Web, the Internet, Artificial Intelligence, etc. Some of these, including the Internet, are still often capitalized. But it can start to be a bit silly if you have a sentence like "We used Open Source Artificial Intelligence software to analyze our Big Data on the Cloud."

However the Internet is like the Earth — there is but one.

What about Internet2?

Re: When did “the Internet” become “the internet?”

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However the Internet is like the Earth — there is but one.

What about Internet2?

It is of course part of The Internet, and is a testbed for new internet protocols.

And obscure enough that you already knew that :-)

Re: When did “the Internet” become “the internet?”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about Internet2?

It is of course part of The Internet, and is a testbed for new internet protocols. And obscure enough that you already knew that :-)

You give me too much credit there. I only heard of the Internet2 (looong time ago and I understood it as a response of academia to the Eternal September). From the Wikipedia article and cursory reading of the information provided at https://internet2.edu/network it isn't entirely clear to me, whether the Internet2 network infrastructure (provided now by Level3 if I got that right) is indeed part of The Internet. Iiuc, it uses the IPv6 protocol, but I don't know whether nodes on Internet2 are reachable directly from nodes on The Internet (which would defeat the purpose, I'd think). And if it is only accessible via gateways, can one still say that it is part of The Internet? In that case, all kind of specialized networks (military, research, private/commercial leased lines, etc.) could be considered to be part of The Internet too, whether they use the IP protocol or not. Not sure, whether that makes sense.

Or maybe I'm not sufficiently appreciating the internet aspect of The Internet and confuse it with the IP-only Internet back-bone. ;-}

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